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  1. Sax

    Suggestions for vegan things to do

    Visit a sanctuary farm Attend a vegan potluck
  2. Sax

    Can eggs be vegan-friendly?

    Imagine someone being against child abuse but they enjoy AI generated images of child abuse because creating them didn't involve suffering. Seeing animal's bodies and excretions as resources we can utilize is the foundation of all animal exploitation. Sure in thought experiments we can...
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    Can eggs be vegan-friendly?

    You say like pets but what if she did that with cats or dogs...let them breed beyond capacity and then kill the "excess" ones. Is that any way to treat pets? That sounds more like an animal hoarder to me. She's inflicting violence on animals to solve a problem that she is repeatedly creating...
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    'Plants are trying to kill you`!-Dr Anthony Chaffee

    I'd say pretty good since the average plant based diet has more nutrient dense whole foods than the average omni diet. And even if it did put you at higher risk of minor nutrient deficiencies the real health problems people suffer from as a result of diet have far more to do with nutritional...
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    'Plants are trying to kill you`!-Dr Anthony Chaffee

    Veganism doesn't have to be the healthiest of all possible diets. I feel like this is one of those unreasonable standards carnists demand of us and too many vegans have fallen for it. If you put up the healthiest possible vegan diet and the healthiest possible diet with animal products head to...
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    Do we need another label?

    What's awful is shelter dogs being euthanized while breeders bring even more dogs into a world that can't find enough loving homes for the ones already here. "Every dog bred means a shelter dog dead" I love beagles and labs. But they don't suffer as a result of not being bred. They exist...
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    DxE-Good or bad for veganism/or animals?

    The courts ultimately decide what rights do and don't exist. There are plenty of examples of courts ruling in favor of rights that hadn't been previously recognized - gay marriage in the US being a good example. When someone thinks their rights are being violated they can file a lawsuit and the...
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    Does Vegan Advocacy Need A Reformation?

    I've become increasingly skeptical of vegan advocacy and maybe the concept of veganism in general. It puts the focus on individual choices and creates tension between vegans and non-vegans. I heard an oil company, BP if I recall correctly, came up with the concept of a person's carbon...
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    DxE-Good or bad for veganism/or animals?

    I really love the idea of open rescues. So much respect for people with this level of commitment. https://www.directactioneverywhere.com/dxe-in-the-news/im-facing-over-20-years-in-prison-for-rescuing-animals-but-i-am-not-afraid?fbclid=IwAR3sMaMdGELExuoioZhFikUwj2PqACoOffgANmYuho4RfWXkSXMOwFmIF2E
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    US Politics 2023

    My sympathies have generally sided with the Palestinians in this long-running conflict. Israel is an apartheid state repressing and encroaching upon a much less powerful people. But I'm not really moved by the criticism of Israel over Palestinian civilian deaths. Israel simply has no choice but...
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    US Prop 12 passes in california by 60 percent

    Well the fight's not over. https://blog.humanesociety.org/2023/06/experts-gather-on-capitol-hill-to-condemn-dangerous-eats-act.html
  12. Sax

    Talking about children and veganism

    I like that angle. Kids love animals. They don't naturally discriminate against the ones we eat and don't like the thought of them being hurt. That's a really good thing and parents should be proud of their children's empathy; it should be valued and encouraged alongside their other character...
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    Talking about children and veganism

    I'm not satisfied with this. I want to argue for systemic change and this is kind of a dodge that frames the discussion on individual choice. Are there any athletes, celebrities or influencers that were raised vegan from birth?
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    Talking about children and veganism

    Maybe the best option is to keep the focus on them. "I disagree that it's unhealthy for kids and so do nutrition experts but how would that justify you eating animals?" It's not ceding any ground and it puts the spotlight back on their diet which will almost certainly lead to the familiar...
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    Talking about children and veganism

    I usually feel pretty confident talking about and defending veganism but I've found this to be a weak point. Advocating for veganism and animal rights hinges on animal products being unnecessary, and fears about child development can be really potent, so I need a good response when it comes up...
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    Are most people here PETA supporters or fans?

    Did they though? I'm sure some were pushing that narrative. Some campaigns or tactics will be failures. No one's achieved animal liberation before so it's not like we know what will and won't work. Except being afraid to try new things that disrupt the status quo, that won't work. Audacity is...
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    Legally required healthy diets

    Oh hell no. Look at the food served in public schools for an idea of what happens when government institutions decide what food we should eat. We'll all be eating tater tots and drinking chocolate milk while we're told how healthy it is and corporations pocket huge tax dollars.
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    A few vegan jokes!

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    HELP-How To Make A Difference?

    As consumers we have very little power. Our choices are already defined by what food corporations have deemed to be in their interest to offer us, and our economic impact on them is miniscule. If you're looking for a sense of effectiveness as a consumer you're looking in the wrong place IMO. I...
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    Making Compromise in the Vegan Lifestyle?

    That's awesome you've been able to avoid any compromising as a vegan. I don't think I've met any other vegans who've been able to say that, including the most hardcore activists I know.