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6 weeks in - feeling awful - any help?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Alice Everett, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. Alice Everett

    Alice Everett New Member

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    Hi All,
    Just joined here, I've been vegan for 6 weeks and I'm feeling really exhausted. I started off well eating homemade chilli and curry, fruit, lots of spinach, lentils, beans etc.

    What's gone wrong recently is I've started to eat lots of carbs, I've gained weight (and hit the peanut butter, jam and corn thins in a big way) and having way more sugar than I want to! Totally comfort eating in the evenings as work's a bit stressful.

    I feel really stuck in a rut.

    I need to get back on it and I'd appreciate any tips, I'm not confident about what I should be eating to make sure my diet is nutritionally balanced. I've done lots of googling but the information online isn't always that consistent. I don't want to go back to eating fish etc but my body felt much leaner when I did. I just feel bloated, heavy, my mood is dropping.

    I want to get back into a healthy mindset and want to eat to feel energised.

    Also I'm taking 25micrigrams of B12 a day, is that enough? Any other supplements?

    Thanks guys,
    Alice :)
     
  2. amberfunk

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    You should be taking more b 12. I've found that the liquid b complex works best for me once a day. Cut down on the carbs and eat more veggies. If cooking is an issue for you with work invest in a slow cooker and prep for meals on your day off. I work 10-11 hour shifts 4-5 days a week and I've found that using the slow cooker twice a week and meal planning really helps. The way I meal plan is make a list of meals I can make for the week and decide which to make about a day in advance that way it doesn't feel as restrictive to me. I use the easy quicker cooking meals on my first and last day of work.

    Getting a vegan cookbook for ideas might also help you. I really like the ones by Annie and Dan Shannon. Mastering the art of vegan cooking has a lot of budget recipes and tips to keep food longer and tips for shopping and saving money. I've been going through Betty goes vegan right now which is veganizing Betty Crocker. I find them to be helpful when I want something different than I usually cook.

    There's nothing wrong with eating carbs everyday just don't do it at every meal and over do it. I find that I get the feeling that I'm bloated and constipated if I over do it on pasta. I hope some of this helps you. Good luck to you!
     
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    hi Alice

    Welcome to the forum and I hope you are more comfortable soon!

    May I ask how much oil you are eating? Are you using olive oil or coconut oil in your cooking?

    Emma JC
     
  4. Mangia Vegano
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    Mangia Vegano New Member

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    Hi there! Lucky for me, I had a few people to help me out when I started. One of the things I learned early was the importance of a varied diet. Can't eat the same stuff all of the time because you need to gather nutrition from various sources now. As you and @amberfunk were getting to, multi vitamins are also great. I need to get better at taking those myself.

    As far as what foods to eat , here is a common dinner rotation in my house:

    Monday
    - Beefless Tips with Onions, Mushrooms, and Mashed Potatoes
    Tuesday - Salad with pan fried breaded Tofu, Cucumbers, Carrots, Red Onion, and a nice Vegan Dressing
    Wednesday - Minestrone Soup
    Thursday - TLT's (Tempeh, Lettuce, and Tomato Sandwiches) with Avocado and a nice Vegan Dressing
    Friday - Cheat day, baby! Some awesome pasta with marinara sauce, daiya cheese, and Vegan Crumbles

    Throughout the week: Fresh sliced pineapple, various other fruits. Oatmeal and cereals in the morning. Etc.

    So, that's a given week. Veggies, Proteins, fruits, and take a multi vitamin daily (with food). If you are interested in some recipes and how to videos, I started a YouTube channel to help my friends and family. It just launched, but content will be updated regularly.

    Good Luck!
     
  5. Nekodaiden

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    It is unlikely the corn thins are making you fat (unless they are fried/contain oil), nor the jam. But refined fatless or near fatless carbs can hinder weight loss if they do not contain fiber or enough of it. Your gut flora will keep asking you to eat until you give it what it needs. If Prevotella prevails, that means fiber. If Bacteroides, that means animal flesh and fat. Part of becoming a Vegan that doesn't suffer from hunger means feeding the Prevotella strain - and that means fiber rich whole foods like you started eating. When you starve the fiber munching bacteria, they will keep sending signals for you to eat, more and more until they get what they need.

    Eating too much fat (even plant fat) can make you gain the fat pounds if you're not working it off. Instead of focusing on reducing or eliminating carbs in general, increase whole foods that have enough fiber and carbohydrate, and lower in fat if you want to lose it. Fiber from whole foods is essential in feeding your good gut flora. They get enough fiber - you get propionate, which sends the signal to stop eating. This is one reason I can't stand most mock meats made up of oils and isolated proteins. Isolated proteins, to my knowledge do not feed either the Prevotella bacterial stain nor the Bacteroides one.
     
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  6. new vegan

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    We're on a plant based diet, to save my husband's life. And yes. Both of us felt the same way about 1 month into it. The problem was caloric deficiency. We weren't eating enough to sustain ourselves.

    We're both pretty calm people.. but man.. once you're out of the "Pleasure Trap".. all bets are off. We both had to feel and acknowledge how it feels to eat "real food" to sustain life.

    It's one heck of a transition..
     
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  7. amber_ll

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    Hey Alice,
    congratulations on the change!
    Something I learnt recently was that it helps to eat vitamin c with food high in iron, it helps your body absorb the iron. and that you shouldn't drink or eat anything with caffeine in it two hours before and after eating as this prevents your body from absorbing the iron. a lack in iron intake can make you feel tiered.
    Hope that helps a bit!
    Also, watching documentaries can keep you motivated to stick with the veganism.
    Regarding fish, there is a great one called 'End of the line'
    For health, 'What the Health'
    For animal welfare, 'Dominion', 'Earthlings', 'Cowspiracy'

    Keep up the great work
     
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  8. veganDreama

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    Hello and Welcome! I hope the above advice helps you stick to a vegan diet. There can be a lot of teething problems if your body isn't used to it but give it a chance to work and don't let anyone persuade you that veganism isn't healthy because it is.
     

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