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A&w in canada - beyond burger

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  1. Emma JC
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    I thought I saw someone post about this, over the past couple of days, and now I can't find it so maybe I was hallucinating? :)

    On July 9th, A&W, a fast food chain in Canada, started serving the Beyond Burger and I decided to try it yesterday. It was delicious. I did order it with no mayo and no cheese as their mayo is not vegan. There has been a petition started to ask them to include a vegan mayo. If you click on the link above it shows the ingredients and it mentions the canola oil they use in a pan, so this makes me think they just might cook it separately from their meat burgers and that would be nice.

    They advertise it was just 500 calories and that includes the mayo, I believe, so leaving it off reduces the fat content and the calories. This is not something I would have on a regular basis, it is just nice to know that it is out there as alternative when out with family/friends. Certainly much much tastier than the the Harvey's veggie burger.

    A&W sold out on the first day, in many locations and that is wonderful. Many non-vegans will eat it and thus save many cows, some of the environment and improve their health.

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    It's really good to see places making an effort, despite their shortcomings. I've never tried a Beyond burger, so I am very tempted. I have driven by several A&W's, seeing the new advertisement on their billboards. Hmm...maybe a bit of ketchup and mustard instead of mayo?

    I've noticed the odd pub, locally, also offering the Beyond burger. This is a great thing to see. It's really becoming the norm to have vegetarian and vegan options nowadays. I don't think it's because these places pity us either. There's clearly money to be made, and A&W jumped on the idea. It won't be long before McDonald's jumps onboard too. It also helps give them a somewhat better image, despite the factory farmed meats they use, and will continue to use.

    Oh, are the buns egg and dairy free at A&W? That would also be a concern for me at this time. I can live without the mayo, but I don't want egg or dairy in my breads.


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    Yes, as long as you stick with the sesame bun that comes with it, it is egg and dairy free - apparently their whole wheat bun has eggs, go figure. It does come with mustard and ketchup and all the ingredients are in the link to it above.

    Props to them, I actually bought 2 yesterday and my honey wasn't hungry so I put the other one in the fridge, just reheated it in the microwave for one minute and it was a good as yesterday. The bun did not get soggy. I dipped it in their siracha sauce as it is vegan also, some of their sauces are not.

    Try it, you'll like it. :)

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    That is very cool! I don't live near an A&W, but I just heard a day or two ago about this! This is a big step!
     
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    Well, shoot, I thought I wrote a thread or something on the news article that White Castle sold out of Beyond Burgers. But NOW I can't find it.

    But absolutely this is good news for us vegans. In a related news story there was a report that most of the people who bought these things were NOT vegans or vegetarians. Just people looking for a healthier alternative.

    It's still good news for US.

    There is a Subway next to my gym. So I eat there way more often than I should. But the thing that freaked me out was that their whole grain wheat (my first choice) wasn't vegan - and not because of the usual reasons. They add nonvegan vitamin D3 to it. If I remember right Subway's sourdough is vegan. There may be others - but I like sourdough. So that ended my investigation.

    Oh! and in some areas, Subway has added even more vegan menu items.
     
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    I will be so happy when the burgers come to the USA. I love buying them occasionally from the store. I got a package for the bbq I went to the other day. I absolutely love those burgers. I loved the taste of meat and I love when suitable alternatives come out.
     
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    From website: http://www.beyondmeat.com/products/view/beyond-burger#

    I can't get excited about this. Leaving aside my views on protein isolates (dislike) and a large calorie component of a non-food (isolate oils) - the burger patties are a measly 3g fiber, plus whatever is in the buns, lettuce and pickles.

    It may taste great (yeast extract seems to be the main component here, which anyone can get just using something like Vegemite) - but does it satisfy hunger?

    100g of lentils have 30g of fiber. 100g of oats, 11g. 2 slices of the "wholewheat" bread I buy is 4g. If I'm relying on this bread, which I have done in the past, I have to eat a whole lot of it in a meal just to feel satisfied. If I'm having lentils I usually have at least 2 handfuls (or around 80g total), plus brown rice or potatoes, plus vegetables. That's a lot of fiber to help fill me up and feed the bacteria in my gut.

    If I eat this burger, will I need 2? 3? 4?

    If the general meat eating public eats it will they be hungry in an hour and come to the conclusion that vegan food doesn't satisfy? Because I know that would likely be my thought.

    Vegan food that is as expensive as burgers but leaves you hungry is not a win for veganism.
     
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    @Nekodaiden

    I would not eat them for the same reason as you, but lets face it, no one eats fast food because it's good for you. The fact is when you put the nutrition facts beside a real hamburger and compare them, the Beyond burger is still way better for you. I wouldn't order French Fries either, because I personally don't want the oil in my diet. However, I think you're missing the entire point of the Beyond burger in fast food chains. It's vegan, and it's fast food. It's making a statement.

    It's also news worthy, since this is certainly a huge step for fast food vendors to be taking. It's means vegans are being noticed as a real consumer. This whole Beyond burger at A&W actually promotes veganism in a positive way. So personal dislikes aside, this is still a positive step for the meat eating world to be taking.

    I think we're going to see more fast food vendors offering veggie and vegan options in the near future. It's a potential market that is currently being missed by most fast food restaurants. I don't think A&W is doing this to save the environment or the animals, if you know what I mean.

    Is it good nutrition? Certainly not! Is it fun? Sure, it is! It's mostly a novelty for me. It's like Gardein products to me. They do taste good, but they're loaded with the same oils as well. They're novelties, for special occasions at best for me. I don't think any intelligent vegan is going to eat Gardein or Beyond Meats for the nutritional value. It's a novelty...nothing more.


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    I understand what you are saying, however I think there are a lot of people, especially non-vegans, that would not look at this way.

    For example: When I was a meat eater and wanted a fast food meal I'd often get a whopper or double whopper meal at Burger King, or a Big Mac meal at McDonald's. Often when I went to McD's I'd get a whopper, plus 2 hamburgers, or 2 whoppers at Burger King. Enough meat to satisfy my microbiome at that time which depended on it to feel full and get some nutrition from.

    As a vegan having looked into the nutritional pitfalls of flesh consumption, I now understand that the things I was seeking: vitamins, minerals and just general satisfaction from food comes in a package that is really bad for me.

    But as a meat eater who may have just heard about veganism I might be curious. Hey...there's a vegan option! Let's see how that goes. I try, I eat. I'm still hungry. Maybe 2 or even 3 and I'm still hungry.

    My conclusion would be that the meat satisfied while the vegan "meat" didn't. This matters because people who are just seeking to get something to keep them going for a while will notice.
     
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    What's extraordinary is the majority of people buying them, currently, are curious meat eaters.

    If I can confirm they cook them on a separate grill or a clean part of the grill just for veggie burgers, I'd consider trying one for the novelty. However, I don't want my food cooked on the same grills as meat, anymore than I want my French Fries cooked in the same oil as they cooked their chicken. I don't miss hamburgers enough to take that chance.
     
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