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Covid Vaccine-Do You Believe the Scientists?
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Sure, individuals get things wrong all the time. But you're fooling yourself if you think you can outperform the combined wisdom of thousands of experts expressing the same basic position. And since we agree experts, who have dedicated much of their lives to studying a narrow set of problems, can still get things wrong...how likely are you to get things right spending way less time researching way more stuff? You're guaranteed to be wrong more often if you choose that path.
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I'm not just going to accept what they say without seeing evidence, people seem to assume that there are some people who are just smarter than us so we should believe them, this leads to a sort of worship of "professionals" that leads to people submitting to dictatorship without question.
It's not about being smarter, but how much they've studied the subject at hand. You can't discern truths from analogies, or common sense, or comparisons. I judge what I believe based more on the who and where the research is from, if it's peer reviewed, done without prejudice, double blind trials, where and how it's funded.
Too many people seem to thing these sites disputing science are all fringe groups, and from people like themselves.The truth is more they're as much used as pawns by those in power as the supposed 'elitists' they fear.
Don't know what you feel is 'worship of professionals'. There is good reason that years of education, internships, and research gets positive acclaim.
Conspiracy theorists use the very technology they warn people about to warn them! They want nothing better than to start another civil war, IMO
Free speech will always be monitored for truth, and disseminated for lies and inaccuracies .
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It's an extreme Right site:
mediabiasfactcheck.com
Country: United Kingdom
World Press Freedom Rank: UK 35/180
History
Founded in 2017 by Ray Vahey, BitChute is an online video hosting platform that publishes far-right conspiracy theories, and videos banned by Youtube for content violations. Some notable publishers on BitChute are conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and Lauren Southern. The website lacks transparency as they do not offer an about page and videos are uploaded by anybody. The videos claim to be hosted on a peer to peer network to prevent censorship.
BitChute - Bias and Credibility
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no
mediabiasfactcheck.com
- Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most).
Country: United Kingdom
World Press Freedom Rank: UK 35/180
History
Founded in 2017 by Ray Vahey, BitChute is an online video hosting platform that publishes far-right conspiracy theories, and videos banned by Youtube for content violations. Some notable publishers on BitChute are conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and Lauren Southern. The website lacks transparency as they do not offer an about page and videos are uploaded by anybody. The videos claim to be hosted on a peer to peer network to prevent censorship.
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The opinions of the people who made Bitchute do not have anything to do with the content on Bitchute, because they allow everything.It's an extreme Right site:
BitChute - Bias and Credibility
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or noReasoning: Extreme Right, Poor Sourcing, Conspiracy, Propaganda, Lack of Transparency, Fake News, Hate Speech
- Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most).
Country: United Kingdom
World Press Freedom Rank: UK 35/180
History
Founded in 2017 by Ray Vahey, BitChute is an online video hosting platform that publishes far-right conspiracy theories, and videos banned by Youtube for content violations. Some notable publishers on BitChute are conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and Lauren Southern. The website lacks transparency as they do not offer an about page and videos are uploaded by anybody. The videos claim to be hosted on a peer to peer network to prevent censorship.
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Do you trust the government to decide what's Misinformation and what's not? If we don't have the total freedom to express our ideas freely we simply don't have free speech at all.
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beancounter
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Can you show me more than one isolated example of Bitchute showing extreme Left content?....
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Freedom of speech in the U.S. (I see that you're from Canada) is pretty broad. The limitations are:
"Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury. Justifications for such include the harm principle, proposed by John Stuart Mill in On Liberty, which suggests that "the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."[4]"
Freedom of speech - Wikipedia
Keep in mind that freedom of speech means that the government can't arrest you for what you say. It doesn't extend to private business (or a private forum) which has the right to limit what is said on the platform.
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Couldn't some of these just be used to silence opposition to the state?Freedom of speech in the U.S. (I see that you're from Canada) is pretty broad. The limitations are:
"Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury. Justifications for such include the harm principle, proposed by John Stuart Mill in On Liberty, which suggests that "the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."[4]"
Freedom of speech - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Keep in mind that freedom of speech means that the government can't arrest you for what you say. It doesn't extend to private business (or a private forum) which has the right to limit what is said on the platform.
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I think the litmus test is whether or not what is being said can cause harm to others. I've personally never heard of anyone being silenced for criticizing the government.
Groups or people who claim their freedom of speech is being suppressed due to FB or some other large social media platform, seem to forget that their are numerous ways to get their message out. TV, radio, newspaper, email, snail mail, magazine, text, video conferencing, personal blog, sign on a stick, billboard, rent a hall and invite people in for free, etc., etc.
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Couldn't the government accuse someone who opposes them of inciting violent revolution?
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David3
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Hi anarchist100,
Your questions are valid. This is not a new topic. Organizations like the American Civil Liberties Union dedicate themselves to protecting free expression, while also insisting on justice and non-violence. You might be interested in becoming involved with their organization.
However, it's not accurate to assume that government is inherently corrupt, and that educated people are trying to lie and exploit. Certainly there are examples of corruption and exploitation, but to perceive these things everywhere is called "paranoia".
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The attempted insurrection. It was the headline of U.S. news for almost three weeks. Just Google it, and you see all the available videos. Most of which were filmed by the insurrectionist themselves.
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Yes but I fail to see how that is relevant to my post:
Please explain how.
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There are no facts, what you call facts are just widely excepted ideas, but that does not make them true, there are no reliable sources. To me all that is true is what I can see with my own eyes.
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