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Poppy said:
Wait what? Don't go putting stuff in the coffee. It's just coffee. It's simple, really - it's just shade grown, fairly traded, locally roasted and packaged, delivered in a hybrid truck to your hometown organic market, brought home in a bag you received in a VeggieBoards bag swap years ago, stored in the dark, measured into your Scandinavian stainless steel fine filtered cone, over the Chihuahua mug you bought at last year's art market, and poured over by your just-off-boiling, natural spring water that you carried home from the park before the snowstorm and heated in your glass Capresso, and lightened by a dollop of lightly sweetened organic soy creamer (which is the best, after all).
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If I were drinking coffee, I would have spit it out from laughing. Best post of the day, lol!!!!!!
 
silva said:
I kinda hate that compassion is always attributed to vegans. I'm not mean to anyone, regardless of how they treat me. I don't kick toddlers. I'd never ever kidnap anyone, much less kill them. I don't have to love or even like animals to understand that if I don't need to kill them it's wrong

I hate that people think eating vegan is limited. I had someone ask me why I'm not skinny today
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OMG, how rude (the bolded part, of course)!! People are unbelievable. I swear, civility has gone straight out the window. And why do some people assume all vegans are skinny??? As if all that vegans eat are salads. People just don't think. There are tons of foods that are "accidentally" vegan that people just don't even consider. Grrrr. Folks come in all shapes and sizes, for crying out loud! /end rant :D
 
I know! what really irks me is this is someone I eat lunch with everyday! We talk food! She STILL will say things like "you don't eat rice right?" --say what?:confused:
People just don't pay attention. That's why the news has the same 'new' stories over and over....
The other place is often inundated with people asking how to get more calories-which I get when you're new to this-but the regulars seem to confirm that it's hard! Yes, WFPB is healthier, and I would be at my right weight, but that's only a subset of vegan. it's not like veg'ns like the same foods anymore than omnivores!
 
I still can picture the women who swayed me to go vegan. She was so nice, enthusiastic, and really pretty obese! I was still eating cheese and would have egg ingrediants, but she talked and talked about baking vegan and so much food it seemed like such a challenge!:D. I took it and gained back more than I ever weighed
 
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silva said:
I know! what really irks me is this is someone I eat lunch with everyday! We talk food! She STILL will say things like "you don't eat rice right?" --say what?:confused:
People just don't pay attention. That's why the news has the same 'new' stories over and over....
The other place is often inundated with people asking how to get more calories-which I get when you're new to this-but the regulars seem to confirm that it's hard! Yes, WFPB is healthier, and I would be at my right weight, but that's only a subset of vegan. it's not like veg'ns like the same foods anymore than omnivores!
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LOL, exactly. I get things like, "Do you eat potatoes?" Seriously??? LOL. You are right, people don't pay attention. *shakes head*
 
silva said:
I know! what really irks me is this is someone I eat lunch with everyday! We talk food! She STILL will say things like "you don't eat rice right?" --say what?:confused:
People just don't pay attention. That's why the news has the same 'new' stories over and over....
The other place is often inundated with people asking how to get more calories-which I get when you're new to this-but the regulars seem to confirm that it's hard! Yes, WFPB is healthier, and I would be at my right weight, but that's only a subset of vegan. it's not like veg'ns like the same foods anymore than omnivores!
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I honestly don't get how it can possibly be hard to get enough calories as a vegan, even if one is doing WFPB. Even in my worst days of restricting I had to work freaking hard to keep my calories down every day. Avocados, nuts and seeds, homemade bread, coconut, all that stuff is calorific. And unless one is measuring, it can be hard to keep to one serving of rice, or oatmeal, or beans, or spaghetti etc. Add in beans, homemade sauce, vegetables to your grains or pasta, and plant milk, and it adds up. Even when I did short stints of all raw my calories added up fast. A whole mango is upwards of 200 calories, and a whole melon or pineapple is quite a bit more. I think those people must be too restrictive about what they allow themselves to eat. IDK.
 
One of my friends brought up a good point about hunting, that beans and rice must be cheaper than bullets. :innocent:
when you make coffee but remember you have no creamer left.
when someone 6 years younger than you calls you old :rolleyes:
 
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I probably always say this, but I've been to a lot of vegan meet-ups and vegans are not all skinny, not by a long shot.:p I don't know where that myth comes from. A lot of them drink alcohol and smoke too, it's not to do with health, it's to do with animal rights/welfare. People don't seem to get it as I think a vegan diet is still seen by most people as a weight loss diet.:confused:
 
Moll Flanders said:
I probably always say this, but I've been to a lot of vegan meet-ups and vegans are not all skinny, not by a long shot.:p I don't know where that myth comes from. A lot of them drink alcohol and smoke too, it's not to do with health, it's to do with animal rights/welfare. People don't seem to get it as I think a vegan diet is still seen by most people as a weight loss diet.:confused:
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That's interesting, because I remember reading reviews on Amazon of the original Skinny ***** book, which promotes a vegan diet for weight loss. A certain number of reviewers were shocked - just SHOCKED! to discover that the authors of the book expected readers to maintain a vegan diet. They probably thought they could do this weight loss regimen and still eat all the meat and dairy they wanted, which is what a lot of other weight loss regimens tell people they can do. "Eat whatever you want and still lose weight!" And that doesn't work for everyone, but most people, I think, don't want to give up meat and dairy just so they can lose weight.
 
Danielle said:
One of my friends brought up a good point about hunting, that beans and rice must be cheaper than bullets. :innocent:
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And to expand on your point, the animals that are farmed have to eat, they make a lot of waste. What they are fed has to be cheaper than the cost of the end product, or there would be no profit to the industry. So when people say vegan or vegetarian diets are expensive, I point out that beans and rice and fresh veggies are far cheaper per pound. If you feel obligated to eat only processed, faux-meat and dairy alternatives, that's where the grocery bill racks up. But that cost is offset by what you save eating whole foods.
 
Moll Flanders said:
I probably always say this, but I've been to a lot of vegan meet-ups and vegans are not all skinny, not by a long shot.:p I don't know where that myth comes from. A lot of them drink alcohol and smoke too, it's not to do with health, it's to do with animal rights/welfare. People don't seem to get it as I think a vegan diet is still seen by most people as a weight loss diet.:confused:
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Based on the meetups, would you say that if you took the average weight of a vegan it would be a little less at least than the rest of the population, or would you go as far as to say that there is no difference?
 
Maybe on the whole they are slimmer than the average person in the UK. Some vegans I've met were skinny, some slim, some average weight, some overweight. What stood out to me at first was that the vegans have been overwhelmingly white and middle class. I haven't been to a vegan meet-up in about 5 years now so maybe the demographics have changed as it is hopefully becoming a more mainstream lifestyle.
 
Amy SF said:
That's interesting, because I remember reading reviews on Amazon of the original Skinny ***** book, which promotes a vegan diet for weight loss. A certain number of reviewers were shocked - just SHOCKED! to discover that the authors of the book expected readers to maintain a vegan diet. They probably thought they could do this weight loss regimen and still eat all the meat and dairy they wanted, which is what a lot of other weight loss regimens tell people they can do. "Eat whatever you want and still lose weight!" And that doesn't work for everyone, but most people, I think, don't want to give up meat and dairy just so they can lose weight.
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Skinny ***** was more than a vegan diet. It was eating WFPB
But yeah, it is funny when people get so upset when they don't put a WARNING! This book does not contain animal products! Ha! back at ya!
 
silva said:
Skinny ***** was more than a vegan diet. It was eating WFPB
But yeah, it is funny when people get so upset when they don't put a WARNING! This book does not contain animal products! Ha! back at ya!
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What does WFPB mean? (I'm bad with acronyms.)
 
Amy SF said:
What does WFPB mean? (I'm bad with acronyms.)
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I think it means:

A whole foods plant based (WFPB) diet is based on whole or minimally processed whole grains, legumes, vegetables and fruits. It excludes animal-based foods, including fish and dairy, and also highly processed foods such as oils (that means no olive oil or coconut oil).
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Oh, of course, makes sense. They see all those TV commercials where they show ecstatic diet participants losing weight by eating frozen pizzas and pastries for dessert, and then they read Skinny ***** and they're wondering where the frozen pizzas and pastries are.
 
...you're watching commercials for a cable or satellite TV company where the announcer says, "Pay for only the channels you want!" - and the channel examples they show aren't channels I actually want. No, I don't want to watch Spanish-language programming, or sports, or children's cartoons, or violent movies with a lot of guns and explosions, or Adam Sandler movies, or Kevin James in anything.
 
Amy SF said:
...you're watching commercials for a cable or satellite TV company where the announcer says, "Pay for only the channels you want!" - and the channel examples they show aren't channels I actually want. No, I don't want to watch Spanish-language programming, or sports, or children's cartoons, or violent movies with a lot of guns and explosions, or Adam Sandler movies, or Kevin James in anything.
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I know what you mean-I want BBCA
 
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Someone emails you at work asking a question and you take the time to research and answer them and get no acknowledgement, no reply, nothing.
 
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