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So if someone groped you and you reflexivly hit or pushed them, you'd possibly be arrested for assault and nothing would happen to them?
News Germany: New Year's Eve gang assaults on women
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OK, I had to update my earlier posting, as I have now read the specifics of this case.
It was actually taken from a publication of the Bavarian police after the "Oktoberfest".
They wrote - verbatim - (I translate from German) in their published "Wiesn-Report"
Bavarian Police said:
Munich Police published this story as a funny anecdote of the "Wiesn".
As if it were perfectly normal to grab under a woman's skirt.
Never mind that the 20-year-old has acted wrongly. On the contrary:
it said - but this was not referring to the groper, but to his young American acquaintance .
Only after payment of a "four-figure euro sum" the American woman was allowed to leave the meadow police station again.
Only now, 4 months after the fact, and after this downplaying of sexual violence by the Munich Police was widely shared in newspapers, did they change the wording of this incident....
I have heard that socialist lawmakers now want to close loopholes in the sexual assault laws, and that others want to make groping an offence if it happens in an "organized" manner (and likely if it is perpetrated not by upright Germans, but by dastardly foreigners), which seems to be a step in the right direction .... but IMO ONLY if they also make "normal" groping, by a single person against another single person an offence. This has been, in the past, if I remember correctly not in the favour of conservative politicians, who tend to be apologetic of such things
(unless dastardly foreigners are the perpetrators, of course)Also ... what happens if a straight male should grope another male - is that an offence? what if one of the two (or both) are homosexual? Ah, the new age brings lots of problems here....
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But there is hope.
Yesterday, there was a peaceful demonstration in Cologne to support women's rights...
See some of the pictures of concerned German citizens demonstrating for women's rights ...
Oops ... silly me, that were pictures from the OTHER demonstration that took place across the Central station area. Those guys actually did not claim to support women's rights. They only chanted "Germany for Germans only"...
The real demonstration for women's rights was close by.
Yesterday, there was a peaceful demonstration in Cologne to support women's rights...
See some of the pictures of concerned German citizens demonstrating for women's rights ...
Oops ... silly me, that were pictures from the OTHER demonstration that took place across the Central station area. Those guys actually did not claim to support women's rights. They only chanted "Germany for Germans only"...
The real demonstration for women's rights was close by.
I doubt most rapey creeps are going to go to the police and complain. When I was younger and in a club or gig I've kicked men or really dug my fingernails in to make them stop. It does make them stop IME, although they probably moved on to an easier target.
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I read some interesting perspectives on this recently, based on an interview with Italian war correspondent Francesca Borri who has spent much time working in the Muslim countries. She said she spent half her time working there on talking about women, relationships and sex, because that was all the men there ever wanted to talk about, despite being in the middle of war zones and similar.
The first problem is that these countries all have very strict divisions between men and women. Men are generally not allowed near women until they're ready to get married, and then only for the purpose of marriage. A man can't get married until he has a job that pays enough to support a family. The result is grown men who are incredibly immature, on the level of 14 year-olds.
The other problem is that sexual harassment is either not discouraged in the law or the laws are not enforced by the police. Sometimes the police are guilty of it themselves. The issue is also not on the radar of the local media.
When these men come to the West, they feel like they're in heaven. Sometimes they pose in selfies with random women in the street in the background, as if that is an amazing thing. (I suppose it is an amazing thing for someone with that background.) They also have the impression (from movies, TV, media) that western women must surely be very interested in sex. It seems obvious that when men with this background arrives in the west in huge numbers that there are going to be problems.
The first problem is that these countries all have very strict divisions between men and women. Men are generally not allowed near women until they're ready to get married, and then only for the purpose of marriage. A man can't get married until he has a job that pays enough to support a family. The result is grown men who are incredibly immature, on the level of 14 year-olds.
The other problem is that sexual harassment is either not discouraged in the law or the laws are not enforced by the police. Sometimes the police are guilty of it themselves. The issue is also not on the radar of the local media.
When these men come to the West, they feel like they're in heaven. Sometimes they pose in selfies with random women in the street in the background, as if that is an amazing thing. (I suppose it is an amazing thing for someone with that background.) They also have the impression (from movies, TV, media) that western women must surely be very interested in sex. It seems obvious that when men with this background arrives in the west in huge numbers that there are going to be problems.
