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Greenpeace and friends of the earth have not made veganism a clear need.

Discussion in 'Environment' started by Vegan Dogs, Sep 17, 2018.

  1. Vegan Dogs
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    I am disappointed and put off the fund raising motives of the greenpeace and friends of the earth major organisations as well as the WWF for wildlife...that they have not made it clear that deforestation...desertification...and wildlife habitat loss are all major causes of animal agriculture !

    it takes 1000's times more resources of land water etc to produce 1kg of protein from flesh than it does plants ! fact ! a cow drinks 30 liters of water PER DAY and creates masssive manure and urine pollution so to produce the 1kg protein from flesh in a hamburger is massively inefficient.

    I think communicating this massive failing of these organisations is important.

    http://vegan-information.com/Environmental_Reasons_for_Veganism.html

    http://vegan-information.com/Wildlife_extinction_decline_Animal_Agriculture_Causes.html
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    I know. One of the things that makes me saddest/angriest (depending on the day) while studying environmental science is how so many organizations (and professors, etc.) dance around veganism, because they themselves don't want to give up animal products, or because they're afraid of offending someone.
     
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    At least there will be plenty of sand for them to bury their heads in!
     
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    Sea Shepherd are vegan, and they do a lovely vegan cookbook.
     
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    Yeah. It's sort of bewildering. Cowspiracy did a really fine job of pointing this out.

    I was so disappointed in Incoviennet Truths 2. The words "livestock production" are never mentioned.
    the movie Before The Flood was a bit better and spent at least 5 minutes on the subject of livestock production. And it got one of the best lines. Something like other methods will cost millions and decades, but eating habits can be changed for nothing and right now.
     
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    Cognitive Dissonance...is what the "disconnect" is called when we cannot get our minds around something like habits that rule any reasoning and intelligent thought regarding our eating animals and not connecting with their suffering of their deaths. I often think that our dismissal of our own species starving and unfortunate in our world due to environmental or political factors is rather the same problem...selfishness...of habits...mind blocks us to facing up to "changes" needed for an "overall" benefit. People may wish the best for their children, other people in general, but are not prepared to take "change" actions to help that happen. The "panacea" the "comfort factor" is provided by "feeling a good person" by giving a small donation to whatever the distant or "other people" cause is. So many "meat eaters" donate to dog and cat resues for example but are not vegan...and think nothing of the suffering of animals humans breed and kill for food....but the mere fact they "donate" to rescues now and then makes them "feel good persons".

    This climate change...starving people...desertification of our planet...destruction of hundreds of thousands of species already extinct and decreasing be it elephants or hedgehogs or the lesser "sexy" species...is not something politicians or such organisations that ask for funds such as those mentioned face up to...all they do is ask for funds for some lesser effect costly schemes to make people "feel good" from donations and put pressure on governments to spend money on dealing with the lesser causes of the environmental problems of our planet....but they lack the moral fibre to face up to saying clearly what every individual could do that would do the most benefit simply to avoid talking of "changes" needed to a "sacred" activity of humans..."eating pleasure habits". Cowardly and damaging to the planet and wildlife and the poor of this world let alone the massive holocaust of billions of animal victims.

    That Leonardo da Caprio who mentions briefly the animal eating habits in the B4 the Flood documentary even does not set an example himself and loves it is reported eating steaks.

    The truth is...the world cannot be fed on an animal based diet...factory farmed animals "are" the only way to feed people as the world population gets richer and copies what the rich do and eat and that is destroying the planet and wildlife due to the vast amount of land needed to grow the crops to fatten those animals for their short lives before slaughtered. Chickens are only 6 weeks old adult size today everywhere when killed ...frankenstein suffering pains in hearts, organs, legs due to their unnatuural body weight then killed age 6 weeks old...it is horrific animal abuse. I do not believe that until the rich nations of this world set an example there is any point finger pointing at the huge populations of China and India to do something to stop this planet destruction as they get richer drive more cars yes but more importantly since electric cars are on the horizon as the mass transport mode...change eating habits away from animal corpses.
     
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