Problems with Presidential Candidates
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It was disappointing how Andrew Yang and Marianne Williamson had their microphones muted in the last debate. This is why Yang had the lowest time speaking. When he tried, he realized that his mic was switched off so he couldn't interject. I think I read some articles that Yang is polling around 5% in some parts of the US like New Hampshire. He has around 19% with 18-34 years olds and tied 1st place for that demographic.
Many people dismiss him but I think he will gain a huge amount of support over the next few debates.
A good video where he describes his policies better..
Many people dismiss him but I think he will gain a huge amount of support over the next few debates.
A good video where he describes his policies better..
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I couldn't care less if candidate for president is Vegan or not, as first it's unlikely to be in case and two pretty much useless outside bringing up topic from time to time. I don't see president being able to do anything in regard to veganism without reaching for authoritarian amount of power (What I absolutely don't want) and if they tried to do anything radical like banning factory farming their popularity would drop quickly (overwhelming majority of people aren't vegan) and their party would probably turn against them (unless party also consisted out of extremists) and could dream to be reelected without some sort of miracle. Either way, first you should convince general population to your lifestyle and by that also increasing likelihood of moderate politicians being vegan, then think about bringing legislature, otherwise you will get politically decimated.
Aside from that most of Vegan (at least, those who bring it up) candidates tend to land on extreme left (often dabbling in racial and gender identitarianism and/or socialism/communism) or be corrupt/opportunistic neo-libs (at least in US) while I'm moderate and would favor independent parties as I abhor self-serving opportunism, corruption and phony behavior present in main parties (How, I hate politics).Therefore making Vegan candidates them either very unlikely to be elected or unlikely to do anything about it. On Republican side while there may be some vegan politicians, it is unlikely they would bring it up in the first place, let alone do anything about it as their voting base probably wouldn't like it either being for staunchly for eating meat or government intervention in economy, also opposition from big donors. So, yeah I wouldn't count for much of legislation in that regard in the near future.
Aside from that most of Vegan (at least, those who bring it up) candidates tend to land on extreme left (often dabbling in racial and gender identitarianism and/or socialism/communism) or be corrupt/opportunistic neo-libs (at least in US) while I'm moderate and would favor independent parties as I abhor self-serving opportunism, corruption and phony behavior present in main parties (How, I hate politics).Therefore making Vegan candidates them either very unlikely to be elected or unlikely to do anything about it. On Republican side while there may be some vegan politicians, it is unlikely they would bring it up in the first place, let alone do anything about it as their voting base probably wouldn't like it either being for staunchly for eating meat or government intervention in economy, also opposition from big donors. So, yeah I wouldn't count for much of legislation in that regard in the near future.
I worked in government for a while and you would be surprised by the corruption through every level. Too much faith in government is not a good thing. They really are all looking out for themselves and waste most of our hard earned money. I quit because of seeing how things were really done and could not live with it. I was fairly far left but working in government made me more libertarian than anything. We need to take care of each other because the government is vastly corrupt and really only take care of themselves. All of them. None of the current candidates even live the lifestyles they lecture us on. Yet another typical arrogant government leader thing to do.
Lou
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I have worked almost my whole adult life for the government. Federal, state, and local.
I've seen incompetence at every level. but only rarely have I run into corruption. and that was always after watching the guys go off in handcuffs. although it is very possible that there was corruption that I never saw.
IMHO most government employees aren't interested in getting rich (or else they would be in a different profession). They might have been looking for a cushy job. but those guys usually don't stick around. Everyone I know just wants to improve things.
For the most part, I was so far down the food chain that I didn't have much experience with elected officials. My bosses' boss sometimes was appointed. So my experience may have been skewed. But I think it pretty much is inline with the great majority of public employees.
I know my congresswoman and some of her staff. I can't even imagine them taking a bribe or a kickback. But then they are democrats. It seems like the republicans are the ones who usually do that.
I understand where Libertarians come from. but I would rather but my faith in the government than in most everyone else. The other thing that I believe in is Capitalism that is not fairly and carefully regulated turns into something like what they have in Russia.
I've seen incompetence at every level. but only rarely have I run into corruption. and that was always after watching the guys go off in handcuffs. although it is very possible that there was corruption that I never saw.
IMHO most government employees aren't interested in getting rich (or else they would be in a different profession). They might have been looking for a cushy job. but those guys usually don't stick around. Everyone I know just wants to improve things.
For the most part, I was so far down the food chain that I didn't have much experience with elected officials. My bosses' boss sometimes was appointed. So my experience may have been skewed. But I think it pretty much is inline with the great majority of public employees.
I know my congresswoman and some of her staff. I can't even imagine them taking a bribe or a kickback. But then they are democrats. It seems like the republicans are the ones who usually do that.
I understand where Libertarians come from. but I would rather but my faith in the government than in most everyone else. The other thing that I believe in is Capitalism that is not fairly and carefully regulated turns into something like what they have in Russia.
The problem with Russia is a big government problem. That creates an environment where only those in government and the politically connected get extremely rich and nobody else really has any opportunity. The politicians that I worked with were all democrats and some of them were hauled off in handcuffs, but I see the same stuff that they were pulling in all levels of government like Hunter Biden, and John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi's sons sitting on boards of Ukrainian oil companies even though they had no relevant experience or even speak their language while the same oil companies received billions of our hard earned money that essentially just disappeared. MOST politicians partake in these activities and everyone just seems to turn a bling eye. At least under capitalism we can choose where our own money goes and those who earn it by making our lives better get it. It is not taken by threat of imprisonment and then wasted on corruption.
That’s the first time I hear that the companies that are hiring undocumented workers get fined, so far all I had heard of was the workers themselves getting deported, leading to some companies denouncing their own unruly employees. I guess they would not do that if they got fined then...
The fines are relatively minimal. It's not unheard of for a company which employs a lot of undocumented workers to tip the authorities off themselves. When properly timed, they can avoid paying their workers and still come out ahead, even after any fines.