:- Recently diagnosed with diabetes

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So, very recently I was diagnosed as having diabetes (no medication yet) , which means everybody and their dog stabbing me with needles and pointing out that I am overweight and have "high bmi" , and giving all kinds of eating 'advice' of varying quality.

Half the advice is drivel, the other half conflicts, much of it assumes i have been mainlining white flour pies and kebabs up until now, and I am convinced whatever I do will be the wrong thing to do and that my blood sugar will remain far too high (as will cholesterol with terrible low iron levels) regardless of what I eat or drink.

For all I know the sugar level is too high because of eating way more fruit than the average person, for example.

I feel rather despondent and like all effort will ultimately be counter productive or at best futile.
 
I have found that generalised resources all contradict each other, but thankyou for mentioning it. :)

For example, eat nuts... Don't eat rice... Nono eat rice, no nuts!!! Eat lots of fruit.. What are you crazy? Fruit is full of fructose!!! Eat pasta instead, it is low GI all low GI is good... Waaait not agave nectar!!!! Eat high fat ... No low fat!!! Artificial sweeteners are fine..... Oh, only if you want a major blood sugar spike though. Dairy products are fine. Pcrm says nooooo! Just eat cardboard.... Noooo your blood sugar will drop but cardboard has no vitamins! Small pudding a day is fine... Wtf you are having half a tsp of sugar in coffee each day nonono stop that. Oil with carbs slows absorption.... But do not eat oil, nothing high fat allowed!!!!

:) I guess I am posting to say, does anybody else here have diabetes and how on earth did you interpret and manage this sort of information miasma?
 
I have found that generalised resources all contradict each other, but thankyou for mentioning it. :)

For example, eat nuts... Don't eat rice... Nono eat rice, no nuts!!! Eat lots of fruit.. What are you crazy? Fruit is full of fructose!!! Eat pasta instead, it is low GI all low GI is good... Waaait not agave nectar!!!! Eat high fat ... No low fat!!! Artificial sweeteners are fine..... Oh, only if you want a major blood sugar spike though. Dairy products are fine. Pcrm says nooooo! Just eat cardboard.... Noooo your blood sugar will drop but cardboard has no vitamins! Small pudding a day is fine... Wtf you are having half a tsp of sugar in coffee each day nonono stop that. Oil with carbs slows absorption.... But do not eat oil, nothing high fat allowed!!!!

:) I guess I am posting to say, does anybody else here have diabetes and how on earth did you interpret and manage this sort of information miasma?

I've never heard of people with pre diabetes or diabetes not being allowed to eat fat. Vegetable fat (grains and nuts too) is good for you and helps to keep blood sugar levels stable. I make sure to have a few spoons of virgin oil every day. You need carbs but they have to be unprocessed ; whole-wheat or whole grain. Steer clear of white pasta, rice and bread.

Agave syrup will cause sugar levels to rise as it is sugar. Have you ever tried stevia ? I use it for cooking and baking and it really is very sweet without the inconvenience of having sugar spikes.
 
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I have family members with varying degrees of insulin/sugar issues, and basically they've been told to focus on protein, vegetables and plant-based healthier fats (like olive oil) and avoid the "white" processed foods like bread, pasta, rice, crackers and such. I'm not sure about potatoes, though I think sweet potatoes might be OK. Also, for most of them, their issues with sugar are weight-related, so the docs have also told them to avoid most junk food like chips, pretzels, baked goods, ice cream, etc., in an effort to reduce their weight. But not all diabetes is weight-related, so I guess it depends on the type you have with respect to the diet you should follow.
 
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((((hugs)))) I think eating a wholegrain low GI diet is the way to go. I also have high blood sugars so have similar concerns.
 
Fruits.. it is best to eat the lower GI fruits such as apples and berries. Sometimes pears.. and learn a bit about sugar free baking..

sometimes you can make really nice muffins, biscuits and cakes which have only a hint of sweetness and it doesnt take too much to get used to not having sweeter tastes around in fact it makes the tongue more hypersensitive to sugar so things like broccolli start tasting sweet... so it isnt the "sugar desert" that it seems to be,
 
((((hugs)))) I think eating a wholegrain low GI diet is the way to go. I also have high blood sugars so have similar concerns.

Yes, a low GI diet is by far the best if you have low sugar levels. Berries especially raspberries are by far the best to avoid sugar spikes. I very often have a bowl of berries with soya cream for dessert.
 
I thought I read somewhere that not all "sugars" are alike as far as diabetes is concerned. Sticking your teaspoon in a sugar bowl is definitely bad, but eating fruit is maybe not so bad.
 
I think the low fat thing is because I am a little plump, but you would think I was the size of a yurt to hear some people go on about it :-p am only size 18 which is not ridiculous.

It is mainly because I have an (untreated and not even being investigated properly, and in a remarkably leisurely manner, by nhs) illness where I kept feeling nauseous and being sick then ate well below minimum recommendation for calories for a long time and it seemed to jigger up my metabolism.

Nobody seems sure about fruit, am considering getting a 50 use home blood sugar testing kit but they are like, £30 and that is a lot of money. I probably should get one anyway though.
 


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