CrazyCatLady
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So hard to know who to trust. As there are quite a few companies we'v discussed here that have no leaping bunny but we're ok with. Why can't they just make it illegal to test grr xxx
UK Vegan Cosmetics
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Some companies are BUAV approved but dont buy the right to put the logo on their products (ie small companies)
Some like LUSH never tested from the start so dont need to get approval.
Some like LUSH never tested from the start so dont need to get approval.
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This is the reason I put a disclaimer in the first post, I'm writing there that non-Leaping-Bunny companies don't test but all we have is their word for it, in most cases. I do understand why companies choose not to get approved, I think it should be free or much cheaper than it is, but it does make it harder for consumers to know who to trust.
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My e.l.f stuff arrived!
I wasn't sure about the foundation at first, but I think that's because I'm not used to wearing it and I looked strange in the mirror. My friend (without knowing I was worrying) said my skin looked very nice. It went on very smoothly and blended in nicely.
The concealer was good, nice coverage without looking cakey.
The nail polish was okay, it would need 2 coats.
The lipstick is completely different to the swatch on the website, which raggle warned me about. It was supposed to be a "medium nude brown" but it's quite a deep plum brown and not something I would have chosen. I tried it and I liked that it made my teeth look whiter, but I'm not used to wearing anything other than nude. It might grow on me.
The eyeshadows are very hit and miss. Some of them are as pigmented as a MAC one, others are virtually invisible. But at 15p each, you can't really complain if all 100 aren't up to scratch! There's a good range of colours and a mixture of matte and shimmery. It would be a great gift for a teenager or someone who's just starting out with makeup and wants to experiment with colours.
I wasn't sure about the foundation at first, but I think that's because I'm not used to wearing it and I looked strange in the mirror. My friend (without knowing I was worrying) said my skin looked very nice. It went on very smoothly and blended in nicely.
The concealer was good, nice coverage without looking cakey.
The nail polish was okay, it would need 2 coats.
The lipstick is completely different to the swatch on the website, which raggle warned me about. It was supposed to be a "medium nude brown" but it's quite a deep plum brown and not something I would have chosen. I tried it and I liked that it made my teeth look whiter, but I'm not used to wearing anything other than nude. It might grow on me.
The eyeshadows are very hit and miss. Some of them are as pigmented as a MAC one, others are virtually invisible. But at 15p each, you can't really complain if all 100 aren't up to scratch! There's a good range of colours and a mixture of matte and shimmery. It would be a great gift for a teenager or someone who's just starting out with makeup and wants to experiment with colours.
TreeHugger
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Even if they are cruelty free NONE of their cosmetic products are suitable for vegetarians. I rang their customer service before and got them to find out.
God knows what they put in their shampoo's etc.
TreeHugger
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Haha I don't really get it either.
Although, I suppose it's better for omni's to use Tesco non tested shampoo than herbal essences non vegetarian and tested ones.
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SummerRain
I dreamed that God would be forgiving.
Lots of people think animal testing is wrong but eating meat isn't. I can sort of see why, animal testing for cosmetics is more obviously unnecessary and inherently cruel, whereas most people see eating animal products as something necessary and not cruel (because they picture cows grazing in fields, a quick painless bullet to the head, or chickens grazing about producing eggs in fields, etc). They're wrong but I can understand it.
that's what drives me so damn mad about animal testing on cosmetics and toiletries MOST people think it's wrong but continue to use lots and lots of products that are tested on animals. Then again it gives me hope, I think as more companies stop animal testing and label as such, and it becomes less effort to buy not animal tested products, and people become more aware that other products ARE tested on animals, I think animal testing for cosmetics and toiletries is actually something that could end in the near future, in the UK anyway, because when you speak to people it's something most people agree with in principle.
that's what drives me so damn mad about animal testing on cosmetics and toiletries MOST people think it's wrong but continue to use lots and lots of products that are tested on animals. Then again it gives me hope, I think as more companies stop animal testing and label as such, and it becomes less effort to buy not animal tested products, and people become more aware that other products ARE tested on animals, I think animal testing for cosmetics and toiletries is actually something that could end in the near future, in the UK anyway, because when you speak to people it's something most people agree with in principle.
I agree. Alot of people on my FB say they are against animal testing but then rave about the latest perfume from Chanel or whatever...
I think the problem is that A-So many companies lie (like Loreal) that people assume they are buying CF products. and B-People assume you can only be vegan by buying specialist items online.
So many people are suprised when I say that Superdrug is CF...the problem is lack of research.
I think the problem is that A-So many companies lie (like Loreal) that people assume they are buying CF products. and B-People assume you can only be vegan by buying specialist items online.
So many people are suprised when I say that Superdrug is CF...the problem is lack of research.
SummerRain
I dreamed that God would be forgiving.
Yeah you're right. I think people do either believe every company that says it doesn't test on animals, or think to get CF products you'd need to spend £10 on a bottle of shampoo online with £5 delivery lol, or maybe they just don't make the connection at all.
I'm definitely moving more towards buying majority BUAV approved products now... it's tiresome trying to check companies well enough to feel confidant in their products... although I don't disagree in principle with buying things from companies that aren't approved and say they don't test on animals, test ingredients on animals, or commission testing on animals on their behalf. As long as they explicitly say all three I think they're generally telling the truth, usually when companies lie it is because they don't test on animals but they do commission it on their behalf.
I think the only things I currently buy are MAC make up, which I wont buy anymore now, Simple skincare products because these are the only ones I can find that don't burn my skin, and essential oils since I don't think BUAV approved ones do exist. Although M&S do burning oils.
I'm definitely moving more towards buying majority BUAV approved products now... it's tiresome trying to check companies well enough to feel confidant in their products... although I don't disagree in principle with buying things from companies that aren't approved and say they don't test on animals, test ingredients on animals, or commission testing on animals on their behalf. As long as they explicitly say all three I think they're generally telling the truth, usually when companies lie it is because they don't test on animals but they do commission it on their behalf.
I think the only things I currently buy are MAC make up, which I wont buy anymore now, Simple skincare products because these are the only ones I can find that don't burn my skin, and essential oils since I don't think BUAV approved ones do exist. Although M&S do burning oils.
CrazyCatLady
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I found a link that said that John Frieda is cruelty free but parent company may not be. Anyone able to confirm this please? Xxx
They are owned by Kao Brands Europe. The followin links gives you more details :
http://nottested.co.uk/Toiletries.html
I got a reply from M&S but they sent me a list of products not suitable for vegans. Not particularly helpful.
Not particularly helpful.
TreeHugger
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Moll your avatar is so cute!
Haha only helpful if you have several hours to spend in the store running through the entire checklist before adding an item to your basket
Haha only helpful if you have several hours to spend in the store running through the entire checklist before adding an item to your basket
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I understand it. The temple farm meets organic standards but we never applied for Soil Association accreditation. It's expensive, fairly intrusive, they expect you to jump through a lot of hoops and most people don't care if something is SA approved anyway. I would imagine it's the same for other small companies.
CrazyCatLady
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E.L.F. are having a 50% off sale today as it's their 5th birthday!
It's for today only!
The code is 50305
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It's for today only!
The code is 50305
Min spend: £30 before shipping and code is applied!
For full terms and conditions see:http://eyeslipsface.co.uk/en/restofworld/page/offers/
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