Unpopular Opinions Society

[Scorpius]

This is a pretty accurate description of 95% of angry online feminist bloggers and their supposed traumatic experiences with men.

No self-respecting angry online feminist blogger would use Tumblr.

 

[beancounter]

He posted the comic and followed it up with his comment. They both work together to be so awful.

In fact, I feel kinda wrong even debating this. These are peoples' lives, not semantics.

I agree that what he said was mean spirited, but to say "peoples lives" as if he's causing them real harm (not just hurting their feelings), is a tad overboard.

I mean people get their feelings hurt everyday. You just have to deal with it and move on. For example, I'm hurt that you didn't even say "thanks" for the links I gave you in the Rock and fossil thread. . But do I complain..Nope.

 

[Envy]

No self-respecting angry online feminist blogger would use Tumblr.

#social justice

 

[FortyTwo]

I love you ^_^

Aww. Love you too Raccoon girl.

No self-respecting angry online feminist blogger would use Tumblr.

Excuse me, but I'd like to introduce you to this website:
http://www.tumblr.com/

I agree that what he said was mean spirited, but to say "peoples lives" as if he's causing them real harm (not just hurting their feelings), is a tad overboard.

I don't think you quite understand the extent to which peoples' feelings are hurt over this kind of stuff, though. Emotional trauma can be just as detrimental, if not worse than, physical situations.

I mean people get their feelings hurt everyday. You just have to deal with it and move on. For example, I'm hurt that you didn't even say "thanks" for the links I gave you in the Rock and fossil thread. . But do I complain..Nope.

I didn't even see that! Sorry, I'll go correct that right now. I always end up skipping over a thread or two when I do my rounds on here.

 

[Envy]

I don't think you quite understand the extent to which peoples' feelings are hurt over this kind of stuff, though. Emotional trauma can be just as detrimental, if not worse than, physical situations.

This humble self doesn't think one would be long-lived if one were to take offense about things like that on the internet.

 

[Spang]

This humble self doesn't think one would be long-lived if one were to take offense about things like that on the internet.

"Things like that on the Internet" help to create a hostile environment for women.

 

[ledboots]

I agree that what he said was mean spirited, but to say "peoples lives" as if he's causing them real harm (not just hurting their feelings), is a tad overboard.

I mean people get their feelings hurt everyday. You just have to deal with it and move on. For example, I'm hurt that you didn't even say "thanks" for the links I gave you in the Rock and fossil thread. . But do I complain..Nope.

I sent the link to my adult daughter who collects rocks.

 

[sequoia]

If anyone thinks that any of this is just about words and hurt feelings, please sit down and actually THINK about the context of the situation. People's lives ARE affected by dismissive attitudes. It completely erases their experiences and places them below you. It is what our culture and society have been doing to women, people of color, people who aren't heterosexual, etc for a very long time. It isn't "just the internet", and the solution isn't to just develop and thicker skin and move on. Ever hear the phrase "art imitates life"? Same thing. What someone says online is a reflection of the culture that surrounds them. The whole "people get their feelings hurt everyday" crap really just needs to get shoved. Let's start confronting the dickheads who do the hurting, rather than pointing the finger at those who get hurt. I don't know why that's such a radical, difficult concept. It IS possible to be kind and to consider the feelings of others.

 

[Envy]

Considering that people very often are anonymous on the Internet, a thicker skin will probably be helpful in most cases, 'lest you break down over a trolling attempt on your blog.

 

[sequoia]

Considering that people very often are anonymous on the Internet, a thicker skin will probably be helpful in most cases, 'lest you break down over a trolling attempt on your blog.

I have the anonymous feature disabled on my blog

 

[FortyTwo]

I have the anonymous feature disabled on my blog

I don't, but there are like two people on Tumblr who actually pay attention to me anyway.

 

[FortyTwo]

Considering that people very often are anonymous on the Internet, a thicker skin will probably be helpful in most cases, 'lest you break down over a trolling attempt on your blog.

That doesn't mean that the people behind the things that require a thicker skin shouldn't be called out.

 

[Freesia]

Considering that people very often are anonymous on the Internet, a thicker skin will probably be helpful in most cases, 'lest you break down over a trolling attempt on your blog.

This is definitely true, but there is a difference between a person who expresses some ignorant ideas that they have and end up hurting people, and someone who is purposely trying to upset/bully/insult people for fun.

 

[Freesia]

I have the anonymous on my Tumblr but I am not well known enough to get lots of messages. Sometimes I get PMs from some of those who are following similar blogs to me. The only anon I have ever received is someone asking what I looked like. Which I answered honestly.

 

[kazyeeqen]

The only anon I have ever received is someone asking what I looked like. Which I answered honestly.

I'm not afraid to say that I share that anon's curiosity. I don't know if you've posted pictures before. I imagine you with strait dark hair and brown eyes, but I don't know where I got that...

 

[Freesia]

Yes, that is pretty much what I look like. Also olive skin, and I am a bit on the plump side.

 

[das_nut]

This is a pretty accurate description of 95% of angry online feminist bloggers and their supposed traumatic experiences with men.

People are bloody idiots when it comes to restrictions by social roles. Sure, they'll recognize the restrictions that their own combination of race/gender/socioeconomic/disability/etc status gives them, but they don't see others.

Which would be problematic on its own, but then you get unhealthy feedback loops. A man says hi to a strange woman, the woman assumes he (based on a previous experience with a different man) wants to get into her pants, the man assumes her cold response confirms that she's stuck up (reaffirming a previous experience with a different woman) and it all goes to hell as they continue to operate based on their flawed assumptions.

Welcome to society. At least there's alcohol.

 

[Freesia]

That doesnt happen, except for in your mind.

 

[das_nut]

That doesnt happen, except for in your mind.

Of course not. Women and men operate as if they don't notice gender and they aren't conditioned by traditional gender roles. People don't notice race. They don't notice clothing. They don't notice dialects or accent.

We're in the post-stereotype, post-gender, post-race, post-class society. It's awesome.

 

[Envy]

That doesn't mean that the people behind the things that require a thicker skin shouldn't be called out.

Sometimes it's not going to make a difference. Besides, I'm not sure that everyone is going to say "oh my, that really was rude of me! I'm terribly sorry!"

This is definitely true, but there is a difference between a person who expresses some ignorant ideas that they have and end up hurting people, and someone who is purposely trying to upset/bully/insult people for fun.

Are you sure that you can differentiate between those two all the time?