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New veg*ns tend to be this way also. The more vociferous new veg*ns are, the more I think they won't last.

Then I'm an exception to that rule, and a "heath veggie too.:p

Militant, vegan police, vociferous, whatever you call it, I fit the description...:D. I made it a habit to tell strangers that they were slowly killing themselves by eating animal products.
 
See, since I'm veg*n because of animals, I don't particularly care how quickly humans kill themselves. :p

I don't either, I just wish they wouldn't take down animals with them in the process. Maybe encourage them to go vegan but take up smoking...
 
True.

I was thinking more in terms of the new veg*ns I saw all the time on VB - lecturing longer term veg*ns, decrying how their families were murderers for eating meat (which they themselves still did a week and a half previously), etc. Sometimes they'd just disappear; a few would actually post about how they had to eat meat again for their health. One chickie in particular I remember who was a new vegan, and very militant about it. Considerably less than a year later, she was posting about the blood type diet and how her blood type necessitated her eating meat. :rolleyes:

IMO, most of the people who disappear from veg*n boards entirely do so because they've gone back to eating meat.

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Not sure if it's the same person, but there was one who was all "proper vegans will call and make sure the sugar in foods/water in foods is completely vegan and doesn't use bone char for filtering." Not more than a few months later the same person was back to eating meat. I'm still a terrible veg*n though I guess because I don't give a damn about sugar. :p

I can also see some veg*ns going back if they're not getting the right nutrients and don't feel well on a veg diet, though I think that happens easier with vegans than vegetarians. Have you ever mentioned on VB that vegans just *might* need to pay attention to the P word and in particular make sure they are getting all the amino acids? I don't know how many times I've been told the only way to be protein deficient is starve yourself. I don't have the willpower to starve myself, okay, so that wasn't it. ;)

There are some nutrients that take a bit more attention to detail to get in a vegan diet as compared to omni. Of course the SAD will kill you in the end, but deficiencies in vegan diets tend to make their presence known sooner.

I will never go back to eating meat/dairy though I no longer call myself vegan because I don't worry about trace ingredients for various reasons. I am one of those weirdos who prefers animals to humans, however, so if I feel the need to consume flesh again I will just turn into Hannibal Lecter.

Oh, rabbitluvr: THANK YOU for the recipe. Sorry, I'm too lazy to figure out the multiquote feature.
 
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Not sure if it's the same person, but there was one who was all "proper vegans will call and make sure the sugar in foods/water in foods is completely vegan and doesn't use bone char for filtering." Not more than a few months later the same person was back to eating meat.


That's what I was saying, it's a shame if people like that constantly end up representing veg*nism, wave after wave of militants who drop of once they've had enough.
 
I think most people are a bit "militant" in the beginning. I know I have mellowed a lot over time. I think it would have been hard to be that passionate and angry forever.
 
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Not sure if it's the same person, but there was one who was all "proper vegans will call and make sure the sugar in foods/water in foods is completely vegan and doesn't use bone char for filtering." Not more than a few months later the same person was back to eating meat.

:rolleyes: So annoying! I think some of those so-called vegans must have been meat-eaters trolling.
 
Just wanted to point out that the flip side of new militant vegans are old vegans patting themselves on the back and nodding in agreement. ;)
 
Another reason why new veg/ns can be vociferous is that you have this new knowledge and are keen to enlighten people. Perhaps some people may want to join you on your new path. But then it dawns on you that the people around you dont want to be vegetarians in the same way you do and you are wasting your breath. So you end up not talking about it at all.

Except when you are attacked about it all the time, and if you answer back you are accused of "preaching".
 
I was pretty militant when I first went veg. Part of it was my age at the time I'm sure (young but knew it all) and part of it was the teasing and lecturing I got from friends and family. Both sides of my family were hunters/livestock farmers so I was just considered weird. So if someone insisted on mocking my diet and wouldn't let up, I could get a bit vocal defending myself. Then when I grew up a little I realized that was their intent, to make me mad.

Now of course the nephews are getting to the age where they "know it all" and like to give me a hard time. I've been defending myself for decades now though so they are finding they can't pull one over on me. One of them had a well-thought out plan to get me to eat Chicken in a Biscuit crackers because I wouldn't know there was chicken in them. I told him I knew about those years before he made his debut on this planet. That shut him up. Ahhh, kids. So glad I stuck to the 4-legged kind. ;)
 
I would not mind havin' kids, but there are several factors which makes this implausible for me.
 
Rampant and unchecked misanthropy is not some claim to coolness.

Mmhmm. There's a difference between realistically outlining the reasons you distrust/dislike the actions of the majority of the human race, and constantly shouting out how much you hate humans and how you hope disaster befalls them immediately. I've seen a surprising amount of the latter on the other forum.