So will further EU citizens then be allowed to enter the UK?
In that case, it would not do much to curb "Immigration of workers from Europe"...
In that case, it would not do much to curb "Immigration of workers from Europe"...
UK Brexit - should the UK leave the EU?
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Once they have a new agreement with the EU, yes, the UK will be able to enforce their own immigration policy. They may also start deporting people who are already here, I don't know. It'll be interesting times ...
I have already sent off my postal vote so I didn't bother to watch the Cameron vs Farage debate. They were saying on the BBC news that the website crashed as so many people were trying to register to vote so they may extend the voter registration deadline. EU referendum: Plea to extend EU vote register deadline - BBC News
I wonder if people were trying to register because they were spurred on to vote to remain or to leave.
I've been watching a comedy called An Immigrant's guide to Britain. Quite funny.
An Immigrant’s Guide to Britain: spoof shows migrants have a sense of humour, too: review
I wonder if people were trying to register because they were spurred on to vote to remain or to leave.
I've been watching a comedy called An Immigrant's guide to Britain. Quite funny.
An Immigrant’s Guide to Britain: spoof shows migrants have a sense of humour, too: review
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The 'Remain' campaign appears to have coined a new term, or perhaps it's a while ago and I just hadn't seen it before: Bremain. Quite clever.
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Looks like the Brexit camp has a clear lead now, assuming we can trust this poll:
The poll had 2052 respondents and was conducted from June 8th to 9th - full report:
ORB International Poll for the Independent 10th June 2016 - Intelligence Reports
More: EU referendum poll: Leave ahead by 10 points (10. June 2016)
The poll had 2052 respondents and was conducted from June 8th to 9th - full report:
ORB International Poll for the Independent 10th June 2016 - Intelligence Reports
That's interesting IS ...down here, you get the impressions, that all the heavy hitters from lefties , politicians , rock stars, seem to be saying stay, stay , stay
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Yes, that is true. I guess normal people are just not convinced the EU is necessarily a good deal for them.
EU referendum: are you 'in' or 'out'?
I got 73% IN.
Your most important issue is society
These are the issues most important to you:
1. Society
92% In
2. Identity
70% In
3. Economy
62% In
4. Democracy
65% In
I got 73% IN.
Your most important issue is society
These are the issues most important to you:
1. Society
92% In
2. Identity
70% In
3. Economy
62% In
4. Democracy
65% In
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Brexit and animal welfare -
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So again, the argument is that leaving the EU is bad because of many of the unsavoury politicians in the Brexit campaign. A classic "by association" argument, the weakest form of argument. And the "elite" is backing Brexit. Really? What about David Cameron and the whole Tory front bench? What about all the Blairite Labour politicians and their treason against the working class? And *now* they're pretending to care for the working class all of a sudden? Pretty transparent. And what about the vast majority of big business leaders?
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Cameron: Gove has 'lost it' in comparing anti-Brexit economists to Nazis
Yep, we've reached the Hitler/Nazi bottom of the barrel
Yep, we've reached the Hitler/Nazi bottom of the barrel
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Brexit is a life or death matter for Britain's farmers
Land prices will crash. British agriculture will face a traumatic shock, and 90pc of the country’s farmers will be ruined.
There will be a wave of debt foreclosures by banks, akin to the America Dustbowl and the Grapes of Wrath. A fresh seed of discord will be sown between England, Scotland, and Wales, imperilling the United Kingdom.
This is what is likely to happen if Britain votes to leave the EU next year, according to a confidential 70-page report issued to clients by the specialist consultants Agra Europe.
It is not a propaganda document. It is a detailed text, carefully researched, written for industry insiders. It is not to be dismissed lightly.
British farmers currently receive 60pc of their income from EU subsidies and environmental subsidies. They would lose most of this at a stroke unless the British government guaranteed compensating support of one kind or another, and so far it has clarified nothing.
Yet like all Brexit and counter-Brexit assertions, the Devil is in the assumption. Agra Europe takes it as a given that David Cameron or any other British prime minister will do little to prevent such a bloodbath running its course if the British people vote to withdraw from Europe, and say goodbye to the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP).
“What is certain is that no UK government would subsidise agriculture on the scale operated under the CAP,” it states.
This is conjecture. Few Brexit advocates – including ardent free-traders – suggest that subsidies should be slashed. They accept that agriculture is strategic, even iconic, and that society has a special duty of care to farmers. Let us call it ‘une certaine idée de l’Anglettere’, to borrow from Charles de Gaulle.
“Our view is that no farmer in the UK should left out of pocket as a result of Brexit. Preserving our farms and countryside is a very high priority,” says Ian Milne from Global Britain.
“Farmers and fishermen should receive exactly what they received before, for at least five years. We should recruit the excellent agricultural colleges of Cirencester, Reading, and Manchester, and those in Scotland, to invent a new model of subsidies. We paid £12.3bn into the EU budget in 2014, which we would no longer have to pay, so there would be more than enough money.”
Land prices will crash. British agriculture will face a traumatic shock, and 90pc of the country’s farmers will be ruined.
There will be a wave of debt foreclosures by banks, akin to the America Dustbowl and the Grapes of Wrath. A fresh seed of discord will be sown between England, Scotland, and Wales, imperilling the United Kingdom.
This is what is likely to happen if Britain votes to leave the EU next year, according to a confidential 70-page report issued to clients by the specialist consultants Agra Europe.
It is not a propaganda document. It is a detailed text, carefully researched, written for industry insiders. It is not to be dismissed lightly.
British farmers currently receive 60pc of their income from EU subsidies and environmental subsidies. They would lose most of this at a stroke unless the British government guaranteed compensating support of one kind or another, and so far it has clarified nothing.
Yet like all Brexit and counter-Brexit assertions, the Devil is in the assumption. Agra Europe takes it as a given that David Cameron or any other British prime minister will do little to prevent such a bloodbath running its course if the British people vote to withdraw from Europe, and say goodbye to the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP).
“What is certain is that no UK government would subsidise agriculture on the scale operated under the CAP,” it states.
This is conjecture. Few Brexit advocates – including ardent free-traders – suggest that subsidies should be slashed. They accept that agriculture is strategic, even iconic, and that society has a special duty of care to farmers. Let us call it ‘une certaine idée de l’Anglettere’, to borrow from Charles de Gaulle.
“Our view is that no farmer in the UK should left out of pocket as a result of Brexit. Preserving our farms and countryside is a very high priority,” says Ian Milne from Global Britain.
“Farmers and fishermen should receive exactly what they received before, for at least five years. We should recruit the excellent agricultural colleges of Cirencester, Reading, and Manchester, and those in Scotland, to invent a new model of subsidies. We paid £12.3bn into the EU budget in 2014, which we would no longer have to pay, so there would be more than enough money.”