Not all people obviously, but I believe a lot of them are as so much focus of the Leave campaign was put on immigration and exploiting the fears people have about anyone who is different. There is a lot of xenophobia and racism in UK society and there is no point sugar coating it.
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Not all people obviously, but I believe a lot of them are as so much focus of the Leave campaign was put on immigration and exploiting the fears people have about anyone who is different. There is a lot of xenophobia and racism in UK society and there is no point sugar coating it.
robert99
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The divisons of voting are scary - north of Watford leave, south of Watford stay. Scotland stay and N.Ireland stay.
Cameron has not only shot himself in the foot, he might start off more cries for devolution.
Cameron has not only shot himself in the foot, he might start off more cries for devolution.
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Opposition to immigration is not the same as xenophobia, especially not in the UK which already has a very diverse population. It's about jobs, housing, pressure on infrastructure because of a rapid population increase.
AeryFairy
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More houses than homeless in the UK: There are 10 empty homes for every homeless family in England
Unemployment dropping regardless of immigration: UK jobs market 'could be cooling off' - BBC News
We emigrate about as much as we allow immigrants in, and they actually boost our economy: UK gains £20bn from European migrants, UCL economists reveal
How much the economy has screwed itself overnight: British Pound, Euro and Dollar LIVE: Brexit, PM Resigns, Bank of England Reassures Markets
Manchester voted remain overall - likely due to the fact that the EU pledged around 22 million to rebuild the city after the IRA bombings in 1996 (while the UK government by itself offered less than half a million). I owe my home city to our relationship with the EU. I'm also incredibly worried about what this means for the job market - I'm out of work, and the drop in the pound will probably mean a significant decrease in available jobs.
But congratulations, I guess.
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"May you live in interesting times" ... mmm ... I wonder what the 800,000 ex-pat pensioners in Spain think?
I guess they are now calculating what they can still afford with their pounds
But surely Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and John Gove will be able to compensate them shortly by raising their pensions with all the money saved that is no longer needed to subsidize the greedy EU....
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Brexit: Petition for second EU referendum so popular the government site's crashing | UK | News | The Independent
I went back to sleep for a couple of hours as I had been up almost all night, but the last thing I saw on TV was that Boris Johnson was coming out of his house and being booed by people.
ETA - MPs submit Corbyn no confidence motion - BBC News
Motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn, things are moving very quickly.
I think I know xenophobia when I hear/read it. I've been trying to ignore the more ugly side of the Leave campaign for months now. It is the job of the government to plan what improvements to infrastructure need to be put in place to ensure help for areas that have had "high" immigration. Obviously, I don't think immigration is that high anyway, our economy needs migrant workers.
Yes, exactly, I'm sure a lot of people are very worried about what will happen in the job market. I doubt my husband will lose his job and I'm self employed so we are hopefully going to be okay, but I still care about the people who will be negatively affected.
I went back to sleep for a couple of hours as I had been up almost all night, but the last thing I saw on TV was that Boris Johnson was coming out of his house and being booed by people.
ETA - MPs submit Corbyn no confidence motion - BBC News
Motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn, things are moving very quickly.
I think I know xenophobia when I hear/read it. I've been trying to ignore the more ugly side of the Leave campaign for months now. It is the job of the government to plan what improvements to infrastructure need to be put in place to ensure help for areas that have had "high" immigration. Obviously, I don't think immigration is that high anyway, our economy needs migrant workers.
Yes, exactly, I'm sure a lot of people are very worried about what will happen in the job market. I doubt my husband will lose his job and I'm self employed so we are hopefully going to be okay, but I still care about the people who will be negatively affected.
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I am at home now, watching the coverage of the Brexit referendum on BBC TV with my wife.
The closest situation to this that I can remember is when I was watching the live CNN coverage on September 11, 2001.
Honestly, it feels eerie...
The closest situation to this that I can remember is when I was watching the live CNN coverage on September 11, 2001.
Honestly, it feels eerie...
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There are definitely negative consequences of this, and I'm sorry if it means you won't be able to find work, Aery.
As for empty houses, the problem is the lack of affordable housing. Houses have become an investment opportunity for the well-off, to the detriment of the less well-off who simply want to buy a place to live. It's sickening.
I think emigration has dropped recently, which is why net migration to the UK is increasing. But yes, Brits take advantage of the opportunities to go and live in other EU countries too. Why shouldn't they? And the majority of those who are concerned about immigration probably don't want to stop immigration completely, just lower the numbers.
Yes, the value of pounds is going down, and there are probably going to be fluctuations for a while. But doesn't the currency dropping usually mean that export-oriented businesses become more competitive?
I am at home now, watching the coverage of the Brexit referendum on BBC TV with my wife.
The closest situation to this that I can remember is when I was watching the live CNN coverage on September 11, 2001.
Honestly, it feels eerie...
I'm a lot more ****** off and sad than I expected to be with this result, but then I thought at the back of my mind that we would remain.
ETA - This is a depressing read.
I’m an Austrian in the UK – I don’t want to live in this increasingly racist country | Julia Ebner and Janet Anderson | Opinion | The Guardian
AeryFairy
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I didn't say Brits shouldn't take advantage of travel opportunities - I was just pointing out that net migration isn't a burden. We don't need to lower our numbers, it was beneficial to us overall.
Leaving the EU doesn't exactly help make housing more affordable for everyone - a housing crash isn't a good thing for the lower classes who are nowhere near being on the ladder and are likely more concerned about the job market, and it's not good for those who are on the ladder with mortgages. It's only really good for people who were ready to get onto the ladder, and those who have enough money to buy up a lot more than their fair share of property, making things worse in the long run (see Donald Trump's statements on how he was excited for the 2008 US market crash, for example). Better solutions would have included expanding the help to buy initiative to include not just new builds, the introduction of saving schemes like the home help ISA, rent caps (which the EU was discussing the implementation of anyway) and other measures to prevent private landlords from having something of a monopoly, and improving wages/employment conditions so that it is once again possible to purchase an average house on a single average UK salary.
The GBP has hit a 31-year low, and has screwed up multiple other currencies along with it - historically this has never been a good thing. But we can hope.
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I think the majority of us in the U.S. feel bad for you guys. I was reading comments by immigrants who were worried they were going to be deported.
We're facing the same thing happening here if Trump gets in office.
We're facing the same thing happening here if Trump gets in office.
I am at home now, watching the coverage of the Brexit referendum on BBC TV with my wife.
The closest situation to this that I can remember is when I was watching the live CNN coverage on September 11, 2001.
Honestly, it feels eerie...
I agree that this is scary on many fronts. Tribalism winning out, and we've seen the results of tribalism so, so often.
There's been talk for a while that a Brexit could lead to a new Scottish vote on leaving the U.K. I gather the Queen is heading to Scotland in the near future to try to help avert that.
If both Scotland and Northern Ireland were to leave, would the
I think they are starting to find out, as of today, what they're going to be getting. I feel sorry for everyone who was sensible but who will nevertheless pay the price, and I just hope that this doesn't push the global economy back into a recession.
It's really sad that the older generation of Brits decided to play with the future of the younger generations in such a reckless way.
I think they are starting to find out, as of today, what they're going to be getting. I feel sorry for everyone who was sensible but who will nevertheless pay the price, and I just hope that this doesn't push the global economy back into a recession.
It's really sad that the older generation of Brits decided to play with the future of the younger generations in such a reckless way.