Chav mommy's phone call entertains passengers

Is it OK to secretly mock chaviness?

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Consider this text message:

"I'm being entertained on the bus by chav mommy's phone call to a friend :-)"

Is being "chav" a feature of social class? If so, is it wrong to secretly make fun of a person because of their social class in this manner?
 
It's certainly not nice to make fun of someone for any reason. Sadly, people do it all the time. I'm sensitive to class distinction. People deserve respect regardless. Unless they are being a total jerk, of course.

I'd love to win a few million in the lottery to see if I'd feel differently. But then having money doesn't necessarily mean you have class.
 
I'm not sure I like stereotyping like 'chav', or 'toff'.....it reduces people to cardboard cut out caricatures, which people even play up to....I dare say I enjoy a good laugh at some people though, but I think it is a dumbing down of perception and world view. A lazy approach to seeing how the world works.
 
It's certainly not nice to make fun of someone for any reason. Sadly, people do it all the time. I'm sensitive to class distinction. People deserve respect regardless. Unless they are being a total jerk, of course.

I'd love to win a few million in the lottery to see if I'd feel differently. But then having money doesn't necessarily mean you have class.

I agree but that is how the world ticks. At my work place, there is a group that make fun of certain people. On the other hand they think that they are wonderful. The most efficient employees, full of self confidence and they don't have BO.:D

I would also like to win the lottery and enjoy freedom and a sense of security. I'm sure that it wouldn't change my personality.
 
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I should say that I do use the term 'chavvy' sometimes and I don't think it necessarily has to be negative. I might describe a pub or a bar as 'chavvy' just like I might say a place was crawling with 'hipsters' but it wouldn't be insulting, just a description.

Hypocritically, I might be offended if an upper class person used the term 'chav' but I don't know anyone like that so if the rest of us use it I think it's an acceptable slang term.:D
 
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but I don't know anyone like that

Indeed.
I have to thank my military service, 25 years ago, for giving me some insights into that phenomenon.

Suffice to say, I was really surprised by the views of large parts of the population of my country, that I had not had the opportunity to closely encounter before (not that I would search out that opportunity again later, at any rate).

One isolated example would be that among the strategies of discussion and communication, I was not aware that there are people who do consider simply punching another person you do not agree with in the face as a viable communication / discussion strategy. (You might consider this factoid when reasoning with people from social groups you do not encounter on a regular basis)

It certainly helped me to understand some of the results of democratic elections that I did not really approve of, later, and also to accept that some rather surprising demographic statistics might really be true (e.g. the average number of books read per year per person, or the average frequency of change of underwear, and so forth).

So, yes, as far as I know, there are many people out there who can be described with a term like "Chav" or similar.

They might be really nice, when known on an individual basis, but ... still different.
 
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Indeed.
I have to thank my military service, 25 years ago, for giving me some insights into that phenomenon.

Suffice to say, I was really surprised by the views of large parts of the population of my country, that I had not had the opportunity to closely encounter before (not that I would search out that opportunity again later, at any rate).

One isolated example would be that among the strategies of discussion and communication, I was not aware that there are people who do consider simply punching another person you do not agree with in the face as a viable communication / discussion strategy. (You might consider this factoid when reasoning with people from social groups you do not encounter on a regular basis)

It certainly helped me to understand some of the results of democratic elections that I did not really approve of, later, and also to accept that some rather surprising demographic statistics might really be true (e.g. the average number of books read per year per person, or the average frequency of change of underwear, and so forth).

So, yes, as far as I know, there are many people out there who can be described with a term like "Chav" or similar.

They might be really nice, when known on an individual basis, but ... still different.

o_OI meant that I don't know anyone who is upper class.
 
I didn't know people still used the word "Chav"! I haven't heard that word in years, and no I don't live in a posh area :p
 
o_OI meant that I don't know anyone who is upper class.

Ah, Moll, neither do I! (Granted, there is not so much a pronounced "upper class" in German-speaking countries any more)

I am more or less "in the middle".

But there are people with incomprehensible behaviour both sides...
 
(Granted, there is not so much a pronounced "upper class" in German-speaking countries any more)

What about Prince Viktor Albert Wilhelm George Beckendorf? You would have to watch the TV show Grimm to understand that.:D
 
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I think it would be like saying 'trailer trash' or 'white trash' in the US. It usually refers to young people from working class backgrounds or those part of the 'underclass'.
I don't think it's quite that bad, is it? It's not inconceivable that a person could self-identify as 'chav', but the same is less true for 'white trash', I would think.
 
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I don't think it's quite that bad, is it? It's not inconceivable that a person could self-identify as 'chav', but the same is less true for 'white trash', I would think.

I thought that would be the closest translation. What American phrase would you say it is like?
 
I don't think "trailer trash" is a correct translation of "Chav", as it somehow is missing the fake-(or real)-designer-clothes aspect.

More along the lines of "bling bling" or possibly "swag", I would guess (if I correctly understand contemporary youth culture)
 
I thought that would be the closest translation. What American phrase would you say it is like?
It's possible that I'm wrong, perhaps 'chav' is worse than I thought.

If you're looking for a similar subculture in the US, then maybe hip-hop or gangsta rap subcultures are the closest?