I do think it's both racist to compare human slavery with animal rights as well as misogynistic to compare women to cows.
No reason to make comparisons, in fact by doing so most likely will further alienate people, as you have already found.
Advocate for veganism on it's own merit. It's healthier, it's better environmentally, it's cheaper, cleaner, and quite diverse. When you can understand that you have no arguement.
so according to you...and i quote you...do not mention the evil things humans do to non human animals like the "rape rack" for forcibly inseminating cows so called by the industry itself....
One cannot mention the word "murder" either
One cannot mention "animal abuse"
now if the word "cruelty" is only allowed if talking in refernce to humans...that word too has to be ignored.
So why ? do we have laws about "animal cruelty" ? meaning....beating animals up...killing them in torturous ways ? if talking about cruelty and murder is only applicable to human animals...
ah yes...some even say...not alllowed to say "meat is murder" as only humans can be murdered.
I think ? this is nonsense...
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Advocate for veganism on it's own merit. It's healthier, it's better environmentally, it's cheaper, cleaner, and quite diverse. When you can understand that you have no arguement. "
that is what i quote you said were the only things to mention to get people to stop murdering animals...not mention at all the deaths of animals in fact is clear in your list.
Well good luck to you i say if you convert the masses on those valid grounds of selfish reasons to go vegan rather than saving animals lives...good luck to you...i am SURE many are selfish and will wake up to see pandemics like the current one are down to animal agriculture and murders....well actually no i do not think so...until more die people just want to drive as fast as they want and eat what they want...
and for sure cancers health issues are avoided by eating vegan....
but what about the "i like to wear fur coats" people ? they are warm after all...a good selfish reason to wear them.
ok you are not bothered about those i take it...as maybe you would argue some artificial coats are as warm and cheaper to entice the selfish motive to not buy animal fur coats....
Let us leave animal vivisection alone too according to that list...i mean the EU just overturned the ban on animal testing for cosmetics btw ...so now it is MANDATORY to test on animals to sell cosmetics so i read.
anyway.
good luck with not mentioning "abuse" and "murder" and "rape" and "slavery" of non human animals and "sell" veganism for those parts that the health and environment and cheapness arguments convince...except...you fail to realise...whilst ALDI cheaper supermarkets are liked...many like to eat "expensive" to show off...and meat...is mostly about showing off wealth culturally everywhere...that is how we got to 80 billion land animals and trillions of fish and marine animals killed to feed just the 20 percent rich population of humans in this world.
Fur coats same issue...the COST is the attraction.
There is another big hole in your arguement when it comes to the "sell based on cheapness" issue...that is not good for business...business is out to make money...Behond Meat etc are not interested in being CHEAP but making money...so are in fact more expensive and only cheap right now to "catch the market" as loss leaders maybe...who knows...but no one is going to be in business if it is not profitable.
I think...that is the major obstacle to the world going vegan...how...do governments deal with...an economy that would need 1000s less land to grow food...less water...less everything...unless the prices are high enough to compensate for the huge money spent by governements on subsidising animal agriculture farmers...who spend then on machinery fur coats etc so it all goes round the economy again sometime....
well the health service costs pay the pharmaceutical businesses even if people die...that saves government pensions money
Here is an interesting possibly analogy....just thought of it...so i share...
What about...as someone said in this thread...we "sell" like businesses sell things ? ideas can be "sold" well Martin Luther King took no lessons in sales but he sure did sell well...
so back to the issue i wish to raise....
what if...
FEAR sells ? tell people they are going to DIE of more pandemics and cancers etc if they do not stop killing animals...whooops...avoid the word KILL relating to non human animals excuse me...
will that sell ?
project fear ?
just a thought.
You see...the problem i see in that is ?
that is selling on NEGATIVES like FEAR.
Whilst AR animal rights activists...seem to me...to wish to sell based on EMPATHY and SYMPATHY and JUSTICE appeals to humans.
which involve...talking of the "injustice" and "abuse" and "murders" that are unethical and so meant to touch the moral consciences of people.
I see nothing in your list...that deals with anything MORAL is my problem...and whilst "god is dead man has killed him" as Nietzsche wrote...and it is fashionable to dismiss and mock any morality of ethical gods or religions nowadays that talk about rights and wrongs in justice terms....i feel....people do seem to have some problems with justice and moral issues so it does sell.
It has brought up interesting issues this issue..."how to sell" being imho the most interesting issue mentioned by some here....
AFter all...veganism HAS to be SOLD for sure...before laws change...ideas have to change...and that is a "sales job"
LOL i just thought to myself..."what is in it for me ? moi !" i mean all this selling of veganism...the "save the planet" when i have 30 years left to live so do i care about the other generations really ?
my health ? i am already vegan so why should i care if others are more healthy also ? nothing to do with me...except they cost me taxes of health care i do realise....but that is too remote a reason...
WTF am i online...pouring out thoughts on veganism at all ? i am vegan ! i do not need persuading any longer !
aha...could it be...that i want to "save animals lives" ? eeek hey...that is not in your list of reasons to go vegan.
Why should I ? they have no idea what all this is about...they just fear death when they see it coming...suffer the imprisonment as owned by us humans as best possible...they have no gratitude to me...do not understand what i am banging on keyboards wearing vegan tshirts about...so there is no "pay back" in this for me to promote explain veganism...from the animals lives i save