I am a believer in animal rights and an ethical vegan, and I don't have anything against animal rights extremism or groups like A.L.F. I don't think you using the Vegan Society's definition even remotely makes you an animal rights extremist. The Vegan Society's definition defines ethical veganism, even though they just call it "veganism". Vegans who do not believe in animal rights can completely disregard the V.S. definition, and the "possible and practicable" part is irrelevant. You are against vegans saying other vegans are not real vegans. People who require the "dietary" qualifier for dietary vegans are saying just that. The only people who I am saying are not real vegans are people who do not follow the diet. If vegans disagree with eachother, it ostricizes would-be vegans and animals suffer, right? So why do people who feel that way chime in on these dangerous, divisive topics? Why not just stick to the threads about Tofurky where everyone agrees with each other? Aren't you afraid the omnivores will see all this infighting and go running? Why add to it?