Talking to vegetarians vs. talking to omnivores
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Clueless Git
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As a token of my gratitude ...
To where should I send a fresh cigar for Mrs Blobbers?
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Clueless Git
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Was she the one on 'Dragons Den' trying to get investment for her idea to make aqualungs for rabbits?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/natur...ales-out-flood-victims-on-the-Somerset-Levels
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I prefer to talk to nice people.
And it depends on the conversation. I am not totally comfortable talking about vegetarian/vegan issues with non-veg people. So in that respect, I would rather talk to same-minded people.
It is best to avoid any conversation about Vegetarian or Vegan issues with same minded people I am discovering , because you find that they instantly become not same minded at all.
I am feeling particularly sad about this this morning as the reality hit me last night following a conversation I had with an old friend.
Vegan conversation ends in rows, misunderstanding and too many 'tumbleweed' moments for even the most same minded change of subjects to cover up
Clueless Git
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Omni 'freinds' ...
It's a bit like having a dog who enjoy walkies and tummy rubs and other light weight stuff you can enjoy together ..
... then getting ****** with them because they can't play a decent game of chess.
It's borderline cruel in as much as it's just going to leave little doggy feeling rejected and confused.
I prefer talking to interesting and open-minded people, it really doesn't matter whether the person in question is a vegan, vegetarian, omnivore etc. There are both brilliant, great people and completely uninteresting, annoying people in every of these categories.
Clueless Git
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It's a matter of respect, Danielle.
On the moral/ethical fundament of own rights -v- others rights omni's choose to be no better than dogs.
They ask for that choice to be respected.
To view omni's as better than dogs would be disrespecting the omni's choices and therefore be disrespectfull to the omni.
If you meant omni's are capable of playing a decent game of chess, then yes.
Dogs not being able to play chess was purely analogous to the omni inability to hold a moraly/ethicaly sound conversation.
Don't get me wrong here; I love dogs and I love omnis.
It's only going to lead to frustration if you expect a moraly/ethicaly sound conversation from either though.
Clueless Git
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Aye, that's the rub with having omni friends.
Sometimes they may respect our veg*an choice but can't understand it.
Conversely the more we understand their omni choice the less we are able to respect it.
Wandering slightly off topic ...
The omni 'choice', the notion that omnis actualy made a choice, is a misnomer anyway.
For all apart from from birth veg*ans who later convert to omnivorism (as rare as rocking horse droppings?) it's not their own choice they follow.
They blindly follow the choice that someone else (their omni parents) made for them.
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if an omnie had been vegetarian for a while and went back to eating meat, then they have made a choice.
beancounter
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Unless the conversation revolves around dietary choice, there is no meaningful difference between talking with a veg*n vs. an omni.
ledboots
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It's not just dietary choice though, it's making the commitment not to eat animals. And the single most important thing people can do to save animals is to stop eating them.
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And as long as those topics aren't discussed, there is no meaninful difference between talking with a veg*n vs. an omni.
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For me there is..
Because if your position as an omni is that animals are a food source in the same way that a carrot or a tomato is and apparently deserving of the same respect then what starting point have we got for conversation?
Banter maybe or chats about the weather but anything else will invariably takes us into areas that expose the elephant in the room ..
I don't want to feel this and God knows I have tried not to feel it in order not to alienate myself from old friends that I love very much. But.. Increasingly even the most basic exchanges leave me feeling saddened and disappointed .
This is particularly relevant subject to me this week as a simple text catch up
With one of my oldest friends and a self proclaimed " dog lover" ended when I read that she is behaving irresponsibly regarding not spaying her dogs and is seeing the consequential puppies arrival as an unexpected revenue source.
To her as an omni her dogs are a commodity to me as a Veggie they are not. So I am avoiding further conversations with her to avoid exposing yet another area we cannot agree on.
I find increasingly that even treading cautiously on " safe ground" with omni workmates and friends ends up with some remark or even harmless joke that leads to a dilemma where I
Have to go wading in with both Veggie feet and cause eye rolling and indignation or just shut my mouth and exit the conversation .
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