Hi guys, what do you think about the meat grown in labs from animal cells, the animals are not hurt in anyway, since you can get cells very easily with no damage, but it's still animal meat just grown in labs, here's the video link on youtube, I don't know if you guys already read/talked about this, but if you didn't I'd like to know what you think.
It's still meat so I wouldn't eat it but it's probably much preferable to animal's being kept in horrible conditions before they get killed. Maybe a good thing for people who don't give up meat?
TofuRobot
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I think my question would be how many samples would they need in order for it to be sustainable? (If you can even use that word, since "sustainable" is not even logical from a health perspective.) I would never eat it because eating animal flesh is not health promoting (and we don't yet have any clue as to what affect this will have on the meat) and is repulsive to me, but I think for people who are addicted and insist on eating it, it's probably going to have to be the only way to feed those people going forward.
Forest Nymph
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It's not sustainable yet. It requires a lot of fossil fuels and is currently only affordable by people who have money.
They haven't figured out a way to make meat sustainable. It's never going to happen in a world of 9 billion people (projected population growth over a couple of decades).
Honestly people are so delusional sometimes I just want to go off grid because dude . ..with "solutions" like these things are not getting any better.
From an animal rights perspective it's less cruel but I wouldn't eat it even if it was completely solar powered and 99 cents a pound because I don't eat flesh, it's just objectification all the same. I'm vegan for a number of reasons and lab grown meat won't affect any of them except for direct pain to sentient beings reduced.
They haven't figured out a way to make meat sustainable. It's never going to happen in a world of 9 billion people (projected population growth over a couple of decades).
Honestly people are so delusional sometimes I just want to go off grid because dude . ..with "solutions" like these things are not getting any better.
From an animal rights perspective it's less cruel but I wouldn't eat it even if it was completely solar powered and 99 cents a pound because I don't eat flesh, it's just objectification all the same. I'm vegan for a number of reasons and lab grown meat won't affect any of them except for direct pain to sentient beings reduced.
Forest Nymph
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To me it feels like enabling perverts to watch child pornography so they don't touch neighborhood children. It doesn't solve the underlying problem and frankly I'm pretty ****** about the flagrant waste of resources when animal agriculture is already the second leading cause of climate change. Why not make it number one by growing meat with coal and oil.
Lou
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***** **** indeed!
My comment, when we watched a program on it this weekend, was "why don't they use human flesh?" If they are going to grow "meat" then they might as well eat themselves instead of some poor cow.
I would not eat it and I noticed that, once again they don't eat it plain. They have to marinade it then sauce it etc etc.
Emma JC
My comment, when we watched a program on it this weekend, was "why don't they use human flesh?" If they are going to grow "meat" then they might as well eat themselves instead of some poor cow.
I would not eat it and I noticed that, once again they don't eat it plain. They have to marinade it then sauce it etc etc.
Emma JC
Lou
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I don't think there is any ethical argument against lab-grown meat. But I can't believe it be cost effective. And even if it was cheap there is still the opportunity (or alternative ) cost. By growing lab-grown meat we are not benefiting from some other alternative. I don't think even the cost of researching lab-grown meat is the best option. Instead, we should be spending money on some of those alternative food sources that have been in the news lately. Algae, bacteria, and other lab-grown food sources. It's pretty much the standard vegan paradigm shift. People have just got to realize that we don't NEED meat.
I think it is still cannibalism. We don't need to eat each other, so why do it?
Forest Nymph
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I mostly agree because it's directly not hurting anyone but I think that the mentality here is that animals are ours to use in some way like an object so it doesn't solve what underlies the ethical issues.
Of course we don't live in a perfect world and some vegans might argue this is still better than the alternative, but I don't think it can be justified at all from an environmental perspective and you are absolutely right to bring up cost benefit analysis. Resources are best spent elsewhere for multiple reasons.
TofuRobot
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Lou
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