Health Issues The Everything Covid 19 Thread
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There have been 48 COVID deaths in NYC so far today. The numbers are going way up.
Cuomo is now saying, “I’m betting on New Yorkers to make sure we don’t need another shut-down. To be tough enough to stop the spread of COVID.”
Yeah.
I think another shut-down is in our future, based on the stats.
Cuomo is now saying, “I’m betting on New Yorkers to make sure we don’t need another shut-down. To be tough enough to stop the spread of COVID.”
Yeah.
I think another shut-down is in our future, based on the stats.
You can try to prevent illnesses with herbs and even treat the symptoms, but to heal from for example cancer or pneumonia, you'll need western medicine.
Would it be better if many vegans would just die off because of refusing to take the vaccine? Would that make a difference in how humans treat animals? I'm afraid not. Sadly, that would just seem absolutely ludicrous no matter how noble the idea would be.
Maybe we humans should die off. But the truth is, no one truly wants to die. So it's only natural to do whatever it takes to hang on to life.
Testing on animals is of course wrong and as far as I'm aware, often unnecessary. But even when medications and vaccines are tested on animals we still unfortunatelly need to use these products. Hopefully the system changes, but up until then we have no other option.
Would it be better if many vegans would just die off because of refusing to take the vaccine? Would that make a difference in how humans treat animals? I'm afraid not. Sadly, that would just seem absolutely ludicrous no matter how noble the idea would be.
Maybe we humans should die off. But the truth is, no one truly wants to die. So it's only natural to do whatever it takes to hang on to life.
Testing on animals is of course wrong and as far as I'm aware, often unnecessary. But even when medications and vaccines are tested on animals we still unfortunatelly need to use these products. Hopefully the system changes, but up until then we have no other option.
There is an online calculator you can use to see when you should get the vaccine. I got this! 
Based on your profile, there are between 27,132,105 and 38,844,493 people in front of you in the queue for a COVID vaccine across the UK. Given a vaccination rate of 1,000,000 a week and an uptake of 70.6%, you should expect to receive your vaccine between 27/06/2021 and 17/09/2021.
Based on your profile, there are between 27,132,105 and 38,844,493 people in front of you in the queue for a COVID vaccine across the UK. Given a vaccination rate of 1,000,000 a week and an uptake of 70.6%, you should expect to receive your vaccine between 27/06/2021 and 17/09/2021.
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There is an online calculator you can use to see when you should get the vaccine. I got this!
Based on your profile, there are between 27,132,105 and 38,844,493 people in front of you in the queue for a COVID vaccine across the UK. Given a vaccination rate of 1,000,000 a week and an uptake of 70.6%, you should expect to receive your vaccine between 27/06/2021 and 17/09/2021.
Things move fast with Covid and I think that the calculator is already out of date. On today's news they say that the government is planning to use football stadiums to be able to vaccinate most of the population.
Don't forget that there is a % of the population that are refusing to get the jab. Over here it's roughly 50 %. I should be able to get my jab between February and March if all goes well.
I hope so! I think I read that a third of people over here didn't want to get the jab. No idea why. I can't wait to have it.
My husband got June as his result.
We have also a list of which place you have in the queue. I'm in the last group, but I'm looking forward to getting it. I hope there will be good restrictions to the pro plauge people soon. No vaccines, no travels etc (of cause people who can't take it because of health reasons shall get allowed to travel).
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It may mean that you'll be bumped up to the top of the queue. I also can't wait to have my jab.
The drawback with the Pzifer vaccine is that it doesn't prevent you catching it.
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12,542 new cases and 121 deaths in our state yesterday.
www.nbcnewyork.com
He’s making light of it.
Cuomo Bets $100 New York Avoids 2nd Shutdown as State Smashes Single-Day Case Record
Gov. Andrew Cuomo continues to insist a new shutdown is not inevitable, even as the state set a new single-day case record Friday (along with a record number of tests) and Mayor Bill de Blasio continues to insist that another round of restrictions is not only necessary in New York City but needs...
www.nbcnewyork.com
He’s making light of it.
We are now in tier 4. There is meant to be a new variant that is spreading quickly throughout London and the south East of England. No change to our plans for Christmas as we were avoiding mixing with anyone else. In London 28% of cases were as a result of this new mutation in mid-November, but that has now increased to more than 60%.
I went for a walk today and I was struck at how much people aren't socially distancing at the park and on the streets. I'm still swerving to avoid people as much as possible.
I went for a walk today and I was struck at how much people aren't socially distancing at the park and on the streets. I'm still swerving to avoid people as much as possible.
I heard some rumblings about a new strain but wasn’t sure how accurate the rumblings were.
What does this mean for the vaccine? Will it be like the flu, where are you get vaccinated against the most common strains but then are still susceptible to getting the others?
What does this mean for the vaccine? Will it be like the flu, where are you get vaccinated against the most common strains but then are still susceptible to getting the others?
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COVID-19:Variant found in UK may be more deadly than original virus - here's what we know
The strain, known as VUI-202012/01, may be up to 70% more transmissible - and has a "very clear genetic make up".
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That was why Denmark was going to murder all of its mink on farms. They had caught a new strain that was starting to spread to humans and the concern was that the vaccines we have at this point might not be effective against it.
I’m not sure if the new strain that’s spreading now is the same one or a different one.
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There was a mutation very early on. I can't remember the details but I think that in some parts of the world the mutation is more common than the original.
The recent news appears to be about a new mutation. And the main concern seems to be that it spreads faster - but so far they don't think it will affect the vaccine.
However, if there is one thing we know about viruses is that they do mutate. Besides mutating, sometimes they meet other viruses and steal some of their DNA. Again I don't remember the details but it is thought that the 1919 virus is still with us. Influenza A is probably one of its children. And it also is related to swine and bird flu.
Maybe the biggest worry is that a mutation will not be neutralized by the original vaccine. This is more of a When than an If. Influenza A seems to do this on a regular basis.
And as the coronavirus spreads to more and more people (and species) the opportunity for mutation only increases. TG they have already started vaccinating people. but I don't think we will ever go back to normal.
My sister is a contact tracer in Santa Clara county. When she started they had 300 new contacts a day. Now it's over 1000. and Santa Clara is not as bad as many counties.
We will probably be in LockDown for months. And if you thought maybe you could stop wearing a mask - think again.
www.inquirer.com
So if you were having second thoughts about buying a new mask - go ahead and get one.
The recent news appears to be about a new mutation. And the main concern seems to be that it spreads faster - but so far they don't think it will affect the vaccine.
However, if there is one thing we know about viruses is that they do mutate. Besides mutating, sometimes they meet other viruses and steal some of their DNA. Again I don't remember the details but it is thought that the 1919 virus is still with us. Influenza A is probably one of its children. And it also is related to swine and bird flu.
Maybe the biggest worry is that a mutation will not be neutralized by the original vaccine. This is more of a When than an If. Influenza A seems to do this on a regular basis.
And as the coronavirus spreads to more and more people (and species) the opportunity for mutation only increases. TG they have already started vaccinating people. but I don't think we will ever go back to normal.
My sister is a contact tracer in Santa Clara county. When she started they had 300 new contacts a day. Now it's over 1000. and Santa Clara is not as bad as many counties.
We will probably be in LockDown for months. And if you thought maybe you could stop wearing a mask - think again.
The main challenge? Studies of the COVID-19 vaccines only measured whether vaccinated people developed symptoms, not whether they got infected. We know that you can become infected with the coronavirus and be asymptomatic, meaning you never develop symptoms. Asymptomatic people can still spread COVID-19 to others. So we don’t know whether a vaccine prevents asymptomatic infections and if there’s still the possibility that a vaccinated person could transmit the virus without knowing it.
Yes, you still need to wear a mask after you get the COVID-19 vaccine. Here’s why.
If you get the vaccine, your chances of getting infected with the coronavirus are likely low. But even then, experts say it’ll be months until you can ditch the masks and hug your friends.
www.inquirer.com
So if you were having second thoughts about buying a new mask - go ahead and get one.
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There was a mutation very early on. I can't remember the details but I think that in some parts of the world the mutation is more common than the original.
The recent news appears to be about a new mutation. And the main concern seems to be that it spreads faster - but so far they don't think it will affect the vaccine.
However, if there is one thing we know about viruses is that they do mutate. Besides mutating, sometimes they meet other viruses and steal some of their DNA. Again I don't remember the details but it is thought that the 1919 virus is still with us. Influenza A is probably one of its children. And it also is related to swine and bird flu.
Maybe the biggest worry is that a mutation will not be neutralized by the original vaccine. This is more of a When than an If. Influenza A seems to do this on a regular basis.
And as the coronavirus spreads to more and more people (and species) the opportunity for mutation only increases. TG they have already started vaccinating people. but I don't think we will ever go back to normal.
My sister is a contact tracer in Santa Clara county. When she started they had 300 new contacts a day. Now it's over 1000. and Santa Clara is not as bad as many counties.
We will probably be in LockDown for months. And if you thought maybe you could stop wearing a mask - think again.
The main challenge? Studies of the COVID-19 vaccines only measured whether vaccinated people developed symptoms, not whether they got infected. We know that you can become infected with the coronavirus and be asymptomatic, meaning you never develop symptoms. Asymptomatic people can still spread COVID-19 to others. So we don’t know whether a vaccine prevents asymptomatic infections and if there’s still the possibility that a vaccinated person could transmit the virus without knowing it.
Yes, you still need to wear a mask after you get the COVID-19 vaccine. Here’s why.
If you get the vaccine, your chances of getting infected with the coronavirus are likely low. But even then, experts say it’ll be months until you can ditch the masks and hug your friends.
So if you were having second thoughts about buying a new mask - go ahead and get one.
I wonder if they’ve tested it on immunocompromised people, people who would be less likely to be asymptomatic.
I read this twitter thread yesterday and it helped me to understand this virus and the vaccine in such a way that is funny and informative with some swearing. Bottom line is that there is no live virus in the vaccine...
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Queues at train stations as Londoners flee the capital ahead of Tier 4
On Saturday afternoon, Prime Minister Boris Johnson revealed that a third of England - including London - will be thrust into Tier 4, leading to people scrambling to get out of the capital.
I just saw this.Queues at train stations as Londoners flee the capital ahead of Tier 4
On Saturday afternoon, Prime Minister Boris Johnson revealed that a third of England - including London - will be thrust into Tier 4, leading to people scrambling to get out of the capital.www.dailymail.co.uk
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Queues at train stations as Londoners flee the capital ahead of Tier 4
On Saturday afternoon, Prime Minister Boris Johnson revealed that a third of England - including London - will be thrust into Tier 4, leading to people scrambling to get out of the capital.
Spreading the virus to other parts of the country.
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