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Blin, i heard the same about Paracetamol on that NZ radio that i always listen to. The info that i'm getting there, now seems to be the most reliable (credible) and detailed. Of course, they mentioned Paracetamol.
Health Issues The Everything Covid 19 Thread
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It would seem that many health experts would disagree with the French minister's statement :
“Appropriate use of ibuprofen and paracetamol is still currently being recommended by most European health
authorities as part of the symptomatic treatment of COVID-19.”
No evidence ibuprofen bad for COVID-19 patients: Nurofen-maker - Physician's Weekly
(Reuters) - Nurofen producer Reckitt Benckiser sought to quash warnings against taking the drug on Monday, saying it was not aware of any evidence that the pills' active ingredient ibuprofen adversely impacted patients suffering from COVID-19. The company's statement followed a warning...
www.physiciansweekly.com
there was a post on FB from a nurse, treating patients in a hospital, stating people should alternate Tylenol and Advil every three hours if they have high fever. So annoying when you have conflicting information. I guess everyone has to go by what feels right for them.
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To give everyone a smile despite the grim news. We all need a Stella in our lives :
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OMG! Some good news has come (good for me). That dancing competition in Sviridov's school, that i'd been so afraid of, is cancelled!!!
Annie has been calling me this morning: she said that the pianists' competition of Anton Rubinshtein (that was supposed to be held in our lyceum during the spring holidays) was cancelled too. The order of the city's govenment has changed in just one day! (It had been said previously, that gatherings of over 1000 people would be forbidden, but now they have forbidden all gatherings of over 50 people, like in Moscow). Our teacher in chief, Olga Sergeyevna, told Annie that all group lessons ("classes") are now cancelled too, though only on Monday, my big boss told me the opposite. Yesterday, Mr. Gorbatov asked me about if something was cancelled, but i said no, as i was unaware of it yet. Olga posted it in social media, in our lyceum's group in VK social network (it's written here: "Regime of free attendance since Mar.17th, 2020"):
I'm still not sure if i have to go to work tomorrow. I appreciate that Annie called me so early (lol, she has finally got used to the fact that i live very far from work and have to leave the house 2.5 hrs before work). Nevertheless, i didn't understand anything about konzertmeisters' schedules, and had to call my big boss (she was very irritated, because EVERYONE is calling her now, but she said that at least today, konzertmeisters don't have to go to work). I've called Mr.Gorbatov already, he chatted with me in a friendly manner,- he was very cheerful, and it feels that he's veeery contented. We said to each other something like: "Take care", "be careful", "we're gonna wait and see what happens after spring vacations", etc, and said goodbye. He also said that vacations might be longer - until the 12th of April! ...
I've spoken to Mrs.Victoria Sogreyeva, and she was going to work at the moment, so she promised to call me back in the evening and tell me what they're up to for tomorrow.
Everything seemed suspicious to me on Monday, because some little girls (our young actors) told me that a lot of schools in SPb are already have established a regime of free attendance. I also heard our (quite mean) concierge say that all group lessons were going to be cancelled. I came over and asked her, but she said that it was in some other place. Pfffff, stupid woman! It was really early to fill out my class journal, but my alter-ego (Ungh-shu) ordered me to do it, so i filled out the journal. And i'm happy i did!!! This case only has proved (for the 1000th time that i have to listen to Unghshu).
So, now waiting for what Victoria Sogreyeva says about tomorrow. Anyway, i'm extremely happy that i won't have to spend three(!) days in Sviridov's school and be in that crowd that will be exhaling various bacteriae and spreading (sorry) contagious saliva all over the place.
I'm not happy though, that quarantine measures have become necessary. And it's just a matter of a few days, when everything will be on quarantine.
Almost all theatres, museums and exhibitions in SPb are closed now (since yesterday), even Mariinsky theatre, so Elijah (my sister's husband) is sitting at home. Liza called me and said the only thing they are going to do for today is having a walk.
So, i'm going to ANY shop today and spend my last money on a few heads of ANY kapusta (cabbage), if i find any. It can stay fresh for months, if kept in water, in a sealed plastic bag, without access of oxygene (it's especially applicable to napa-cabbage). It's time to stock up on cabbage (a.k.a. at least something "wet", as i've somewhat stocked up on pasta and grains and even porridge "for raw vegans", but i can't chew it all without any veggies). I mean, i can chew anything if necessary (as long as it's plant-based), but, you know, it will be very dull to be deprived of any "grass" for a long period of time.
Now i understand why people were stocking up so intensively yesterday morning. If i have a chance, i'll use it (the chance) to buy some more simeticone today (against bloating - my eternal issue).
I just called mom, who is in her kindergarten now. Everyone is running around the kindergarten, because the fire alarm has been pulled suddenly, and now they need to find out what's wrong. Later this afternoon, they'll have a meeting, - the kindergarten principle will be telling them about the plans for the nearest future.
Uuggghhh... seems a little bit like CHAOS, that is everywhere. I'm quite afraid to use a cab now.
OTOH, a crowded bus (public transportation) doesn't seem an option for me either. I'll try to walk on foot around the town today, though my legs and feet hurt fiercely. I'm trying not to overuse my painkillers these days, because i'm trying to save more. Gonna go and get more Acetylcysteine and turmeric powder, as i'm sick of this COPD exacerbation that has occured at a very wrong time! Blah...
Another lyceum's announcement.
Above: "The day of 'Open doors' on Mar.20th at the theatre department - cancelled". Below: "The pianists' competition of Anton Rubinshtein - cancelled and rescheduled".
Annie has been calling me this morning: she said that the pianists' competition of Anton Rubinshtein (that was supposed to be held in our lyceum during the spring holidays) was cancelled too. The order of the city's govenment has changed in just one day! (It had been said previously, that gatherings of over 1000 people would be forbidden, but now they have forbidden all gatherings of over 50 people, like in Moscow). Our teacher in chief, Olga Sergeyevna, told Annie that all group lessons ("classes") are now cancelled too, though only on Monday, my big boss told me the opposite. Yesterday, Mr. Gorbatov asked me about if something was cancelled, but i said no, as i was unaware of it yet. Olga posted it in social media, in our lyceum's group in VK social network (it's written here: "Regime of free attendance since Mar.17th, 2020"):I'm still not sure if i have to go to work tomorrow. I appreciate that Annie called me so early (lol, she has finally got used to the fact that i live very far from work and have to leave the house 2.5 hrs before work). Nevertheless, i didn't understand anything about konzertmeisters' schedules, and had to call my big boss (she was very irritated, because EVERYONE is calling her now, but she said that at least today, konzertmeisters don't have to go to work). I've called Mr.Gorbatov already, he chatted with me in a friendly manner,- he was very cheerful, and it feels that he's veeery contented. We said to each other something like: "Take care", "be careful", "we're gonna wait and see what happens after spring vacations", etc, and said goodbye. He also said that vacations might be longer - until the 12th of April! ...
I've spoken to Mrs.Victoria Sogreyeva, and she was going to work at the moment, so she promised to call me back in the evening and tell me what they're up to for tomorrow.
Everything seemed suspicious to me on Monday, because some little girls (our young actors) told me that a lot of schools in SPb are already have established a regime of free attendance. I also heard our (quite mean) concierge say that all group lessons were going to be cancelled. I came over and asked her, but she said that it was in some other place. Pfffff, stupid woman! It was really early to fill out my class journal, but my alter-ego (Ungh-shu) ordered me to do it, so i filled out the journal. And i'm happy i did!!! This case only has proved (for the 1000th time that i have to listen to Unghshu).
So, now waiting for what Victoria Sogreyeva says about tomorrow. Anyway, i'm extremely happy that i won't have to spend three(!) days in Sviridov's school and be in that crowd that will be exhaling various bacteriae and spreading (sorry) contagious saliva all over the place.
I'm not happy though, that quarantine measures have become necessary. And it's just a matter of a few days, when everything will be on quarantine.
Almost all theatres, museums and exhibitions in SPb are closed now (since yesterday), even Mariinsky theatre, so Elijah (my sister's husband) is sitting at home. Liza called me and said the only thing they are going to do for today is having a walk.So, i'm going to ANY shop today and spend my last money on a few heads of ANY kapusta (cabbage), if i find any. It can stay fresh for months, if kept in water, in a sealed plastic bag, without access of oxygene (it's especially applicable to napa-cabbage). It's time to stock up on cabbage (a.k.a. at least something "wet", as i've somewhat stocked up on pasta and grains and even porridge "for raw vegans", but i can't chew it all without any veggies). I mean, i can chew anything if necessary (as long as it's plant-based), but, you know, it will be very dull to be deprived of any "grass" for a long period of time.
Now i understand why people were stocking up so intensively yesterday morning. If i have a chance, i'll use it (the chance) to buy some more simeticone today (against bloating - my eternal issue).
I just called mom, who is in her kindergarten now. Everyone is running around the kindergarten, because the fire alarm has been pulled suddenly, and now they need to find out what's wrong. Later this afternoon, they'll have a meeting, - the kindergarten principle will be telling them about the plans for the nearest future.
Uuggghhh... seems a little bit like CHAOS, that is everywhere. I'm quite afraid to use a cab now.
OTOH, a crowded bus (public transportation) doesn't seem an option for me either. I'll try to walk on foot around the town today, though my legs and feet hurt fiercely. I'm trying not to overuse my painkillers these days, because i'm trying to save more. Gonna go and get more Acetylcysteine and turmeric powder, as i'm sick of this COPD exacerbation that has occured at a very wrong time! Blah...Another lyceum's announcement.
Above: "The day of 'Open doors' on Mar.20th at the theatre department - cancelled". Below: "The pianists' competition of Anton Rubinshtein - cancelled and rescheduled".
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P.S. I've just received my birthday coupon from Ribbon mall 
, so i'll probably use it today (on cabbage and tomatoes), as i'm not a big fan of Ribbon (this coupon can be used only once). I spent my birthday coupon from Okey mall yesterday, so no more birthday discounts from Okey. OTOH, there are a lot of regular discounts in Okey, so i'm not worried (i've become a "specialist" on discount-hunting recently, haha).
Gotta get ready to leave, while it's daylight, and while my COPD is not that fierce yet. I'll go and devour more red beans, as due to the tiredness, my Biotin levels have dropped again, and loathsome inflamed hangnails are torturing me for the 3rd day in a row.
, so i'll probably use it today (on cabbage and tomatoes), as i'm not a big fan of Ribbon (this coupon can be used only once). I spent my birthday coupon from Okey mall yesterday, so no more birthday discounts from Okey. OTOH, there are a lot of regular discounts in Okey, so i'm not worried (i've become a "specialist" on discount-hunting recently, haha).Gotta get ready to leave, while it's daylight, and while my COPD is not that fierce yet. I'll go and devour more red beans, as due to the tiredness, my Biotin levels have dropped again, and loathsome inflamed hangnails are torturing me for the 3rd day in a row.
Just to check, those "many health experts" your article cites are ... the manufacturers of Ibuprofen?
Not exactly surprising, then.
Birthday?P.S. I've just received my birthday coupon from Ribbon mall
Gotta get ready to leave, while it's daylight, and while my COPD is not that fierce yet. I'll go and devour more red beans, as due to the tiredness, my Biotin levels have dropped again, and loathsome inflamed hangnails are torturing me for the 3rd day in a row.
And when might that be? 
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my temp was a lot lower in the morning (99.something). And I felt better. But as the day went on felt more tired. and my temp slowly rose to 100.1. I believe this is typical of things like the flu.
Anyway, it's down to 98.8 this morning. I'll keep an eye on it.
Yesterday it was raining so I wasn't tempted to go anywhere. Plus its too dangerous out there. Today if the weather breaks I'll try to go for at least one walk.
I spoke over the phone to an RN from the Cancer Treatment center yesterday. She thought this was just ordinary cancer treatment recovery stuff. But to call her if it goes over 100.
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The Fire That Burns Within
A brief case study into human nature.
I went to the vet to pick up prescription food for our cat. As I walked in the women at the front desk looked at me with a frightened face and said "yes". I told her I was here to pick up food. She replied, "we ask that people call ahead".. I replied. "well I am standing six feet away...
Another women who had seen me many times before relieved the tension in the room, and the first women completed the transaction.
This women acted like it was reasonable to be cautious of the customer, but the customer didn't have to be cautious of them. (They didn't wear gloves or have any sanitizer... )
An interesting double standard, and an example of human ego centrism.
I went to the vet to pick up prescription food for our cat. As I walked in the women at the front desk looked at me with a frightened face and said "yes". I told her I was here to pick up food. She replied, "we ask that people call ahead".. I replied. "well I am standing six feet away...
Another women who had seen me many times before relieved the tension in the room, and the first women completed the transaction.
This women acted like it was reasonable to be cautious of the customer, but the customer didn't have to be cautious of them. (They didn't wear gloves or have any sanitizer... )
An interesting double standard, and an example of human ego centrism.
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All the virtual concerts, plays, museums and other culture you can enjoy from home
CNN Style looks at some of the most fascinating, immersive concerts, museum tours and other virtual culture you can explore during the coronavirus outbreak.
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I'm so pleased that you are feeling better. It's always best to call your health care provider when in doubt.
Ibuprofen and acetaminophen (paracetamol) should not be popped casually. Each has issues. Ibuprofen can exacerbate gastric reflux problems if taken regularly. Acetaminophen does not combine well with alcohol and anyone who drinks more than 3 drinks a day should not use it because of the risk of damage to the liver.
Use only when needed!
Use only when needed!
The clinics associated with the University of Missouri veterinary school are semi closed. For the time being, they are continuing to see patients currently being treated, but we have to call them from the parking lot, and they come out to get the cat.
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Coronavirus: Keep it simple, stick to facts - how parents should tell kids
Keep the message calm, understandable and try not to overemphasise the risks, experts suggest.
www.bbc.com
Borders are cloing between the USA and Canada as they have in many parts of Europe.
Cargo will still flow and Canadians will still be allowed to come home.
Emma JC
Cargo will still flow and Canadians will still be allowed to come home.
Emma JC
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