The Everything Non-Dairy Thread

[Chryssie]

I watch Shark Tank and I saw this episode. I thought it was pretty cool. I'm with you on bringing your own refillable bottles. I doubt I ever see one of the dispensers around here though. If the small home version were to become readily available and cheap enough, it might be worth having but probably not something I would buy.

 

[Lou]

I like the kiosk concept the best. I guess they have them up and running in some places. but you would have to be able to bring your own bottle. Not sure if that is is OK post covid.

Farmers markets could be a good place of a kiosk. or maybe right outside a store. or in the mall. A smaller machine could dispense personal sized portions. Like the vending machines they have for coffee.

also I don't understand why the home machines are so expensive. couldn't you just put the contents of the pouch in a bottle and shake?

come to think of it, I know that there are companies that make plan milk concentrates. Modest Mylk and Good Mylk. Has anyone tried those?

 

[Chryssie]

I didn't know there were plant milk concentrates. I just buy the cartons at the grocery store.

 

[Lou]

@ Chryssie

Here are a few. I believe there are even more.

Good Mylk just has almond milk and hemp milk . Needs to be frozen. Available at Amazon. and unless I've forgotten how to do arithmetic it seems absurdly expensive. ($13/qt)

Modest Mylk comes in little shelf stable jars. Cashew, coconut, macadamia, oat, almond. There is also one called vanilla - which is a mixture of cashews, almonds, and cocount. You need to make it in your blender. and unless I'm still having trouble with arithmetic its super cheap: Seventy cents a quart. it got mixed reviews on Amazon. My guess it that those people with really good blenders liked it the best.

I think this might be more targeted for cooking purposes than for the milk and cookies crowd.

JOI is available in almond, hazel nut, oat, and cashew. It comes in shelf stable Tubs, sort of looks like ice cream. different flavors cost different amounts. About $3/qt.
One of their bestsellers are their coffee creamers. for those people who actually buy creamers this might be worth a try.

 

[Chryssie]

I think I will stick with buying the cartons!

 

[silva]

@ Chryssie

Here are a few. I believe there are even more.

Good Mylk just has almond milk and hemp milk . Needs to be frozen. Available at Amazon. and unless I've forgotten how to do arithmetic it seems absurdly expensive. ($13/qt)

Modest Mylk comes in little shelf stable jars. Cashew, coconut, macadamia, oat, almond. There is also one called vanilla - which is a mixture of cashews, almonds, and cocount. You need to make it in your blender. and unless I'm still having trouble with arithmetic its super cheap: Seventy cents a quart. it got mixed reviews on Amazon. My guess it that those people with really good blenders liked it the best.

I think this might be more targeted for cooking purposes than for the milk and cookies crowd.

JOI is available in almond, hazel nut, oat, and cashew. It comes in shelf stable Tubs, sort of looks like ice cream. different flavors cost different amounts. About $3/qt.
One of their bestsellers are their coffee creamers. for those people who actually buy creamers this might be worth a try.

Dr Greger suggested blending a tbsp of nut butter with water--I did not like that . Modest mylk sounds just like that with the addition of coconut oil- wouldn't like that either!
Heck, I think about getting whatever the additives to commercial oatmilk to make my own! I've tried so many tips and non have been good. I like store bought though

 

[Lou]

the only reason I might buy one of these if I had some recipes that I would make occasionally that required plant milk. but I almost always have soy milk and I buy cans of coconut milk at the dollar store for the occasional recipe.

since Trader Joe's is almost always out of soy milk nowadays I would love to be less dependent on going to the the big supermarket store for plant milk. especially with summer coming on and I'll be getting most of my produce at the farmer's market.

Those cartons of soy milk at amazon may be the best way for me to go. But like I said earlier, those kiosks would be cool for environment reasons. But those aren't soy milk either.

 

[Lou]

It's a long article and I haven't finished reading it yet. After I finish it I will try to add some good excerpts here. Feel free to beat me to it.

I thought some of the criticism of non dairy cheeses were a little harsh, there are a couple that I sort of like, but after not eating cheese for over 10 years, I am not a good judge. Besides she quotes Isla Chandra Moskovitz when dissing on non-dairy cheese so that gives enough credibility.

the history section is well researched and interesting. And her breakdown of the present day situation is excellent too.

Vegan Cheese Is Ready to Compete With Dairy. Is the World Ready to Eat It?

Long considered a punchline, vegan cheese has quietly but steadily infiltrated mainstream supermarket shelves

www.eater.com

 

[silva]

It's a long article and I haven't finished reading it yet. After I finish it I will try to add some good excerpts here. Feel free to beat me to it.

I thought some of the criticism of non dairy cheeses were a little harsh, there are a couple that I sort of like, but after not eating cheese for over 10 years, I am not a good judge. Besides she quotes Isla Chandra Moskovitz when dissing on non-dairy cheese so that gives enough credibility.

the history section is well researched and interesting. And her breakdown of the present day situation is excellent too.

Vegan Cheese Is Ready to Compete With Dairy. Is the World Ready to Eat It?

Long considered a punchline, vegan cheese has quietly but steadily infiltrated mainstream supermarket shelves

www.eater.com

Me!!!
Who the F cares if they 'taste like' cheese if they taste good and have the components-salt, fat, mouth feel? I don't. I love Daiya farmhouse block cheddar, even going as far as tasting my sons dairy cheddar to compare. I liked Daiya better. I did the same with sour cream because I was curious what I was making I called sour cream was like--it wasn't anything like dairy sour cream, that was yuckyyyy. My vegan 'sour creme' was delicious, but what do I call it!
That's the real crux--what do we call the alternatives we make?
Fred?
Big exception for me however, is pizza cheese. I still really miss that melt and smell and taste

I did just make Miyokos better buffalo mozz which I've been making once a week--just soy yogurt, blended cashews, tapioca starch and agar. it's a wonderful thing

 

[Lou]

I didn't know there was an oat milk controversy. Now I know.

Please Leave Oat Milk Alone

It all started when one user shared a link to a blog post from August 2020, titled "Oatly: The New Coke." In the article, writer Nat Eliason criticizes both the company's marketing techniques and the high amount of sugar found in Oatly's products.

www.refinery29.com

 

[Chryssie]

New product at Publix so I had to get some! There were several flavor choices for $3 each which isn't bad for non-dairy.

 

[silva]

New product at Publix so I had to get some! There were several flavor choices for $3 each which isn't bad for non-dairy.

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$3 ? and it's not Aldi . I bet they're both delicious! I've only had choco mint as coconut ice cream, which I found revolting

 

[Chryssie]

I think it is a sale and the price will probably go up. I tried the Cookies and Cream and it was wonderful!

 

[shyvas]

I think it is a sale and the price will probably go up. I tried the Cookies and Cream and it was wonderful!

I've only ever had Oatly ice cream and it tasted very creamy and the balance of sugar was spot on.

Planet ice cream has some good reviews and also a large selection of flavours :

Planet Oat Ice Cream Reviews & Info (Dairy-Free Frozen Dessert)

Planet Oat Ice Cream is a dairy-free & vegan line of oat milk frozen dessert that's sold in 6 flavors. We have ingredients, ratings, availability & more ...

www.godairyfree.org

 

[Lou]

I'm detecting a trend.
I didn't know mint chip was that important of a flavor. Everyone is making one.

Forager Just Launched Vegan Ice Cream and Yes, There’s Mint Chip

On the heels of launching its dairy-free Cheeseworks line, Forager Project expands into the vegan ice cream category with five cashew-based flavors.

vegnews.com

 

[Emma JC]

I'm detecting a trend.
I didn't know mint chip was that important of a flavor. Everyone is making one.

Forager Just Launched Vegan Ice Cream and Yes, There’s Mint Chip

On the heels of launching its dairy-free Cheeseworks line, Forager Project expands into the vegan ice cream category with five cashew-based flavors.

vegnews.com

Breyer's has one also...

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Non-Dairy Mint Chocolate Chip | Breyers®

Breyers® Non-Dairy Mint Chocolate Chip is made with creamy almond milk and peppermint extract. Filled with chocolatey chips, this is a refreshing, cool dairy free treat.

www.breyers.com

 

[Lou]

Back in the day it was vanilla, chocolate and strawberry.
Now it seems like its cookies&cream, Mint Chocolate chip and some version of chocolate.
I'm not complaining, just making an observation. I do think it's interesting.

 

[Chryssie]

Mint chocolate chip is one of my favorites! It is also my grandson Colin's favorite and I always buy some for him when he comes over.

 

[silva]

Mint chocolate chip was very hit or miss for me with dairy ice cream, I loved some, hated others. Coconut ones were one of the worst things I've ever tasted!

 

[KLS52]

I love mint chip.