The 'No More Page 3' campaign

[Muggle]

...and homosexuals...and ethnic groups...and immagints...and everything gives you teh cancerz.

And pagans (we eat DM readers' babies, yesh) and vegans..

They basically hate anybody who isn't a white, middle-class, married (to a wife who vowed to obey), Christian, cisgendered, heterosexual, meat-eating, British man.

 

[ledboots]

I had to google "cis" the other day, and now I see the word everywhere. Weird how that happens.

 

[Second Summer]

A Murdoch newspaper in Ireland has stopped showing nipples:

Page three of the Irish Sun no longer shows bare breasts. The Irish edition of the Murdoch tabloid has adopted a more covered-up approach to the glamour shot, with this week’s stars including former Miss World Rosanna Davison and Dutch model Sylvie van der Vaart clad in swimwear, with not a single nipple on show.

‘Irish Sun’ ditches bare breasts on Page 3 (The Irish Times, 8. Aug. 2013)

 

[yally]

It's not nipples that are the problem

 

[Second Summer]

It's not nipples that are the problem

No, I suppose it's more the way they portray women as objects. They're not on page 3 for anything notable they've said or written or done, they're there just because of their looks.

 

[Clueless Git]

Don't be knocking the Sun people!

It's an invaluable aid to right thinking.

All you have to do is read the Sun to see how the Tories want you to think. Then you just think the exact opposite.

 

[Blobbenstein]

Don't be knocking the Sun people!

It's an invaluable aid to right thinking.

All you have to do is read the Sun to see how the Tories want you to think. Then you just think the exact opposite.

 

[Second Summer]

Bumping this!

Apparently, page 3 appeared without dehumanizing any women yesterday! Only to re-appear today with business-as-usual.

So I urge everyone who haven't signed the petition yet to do it now.

I don't really want my daughter to live in a country so hostile to women. Yes, think of the children!

 

[Clueless Git]

Apparently, page 3 appeared without dehumanizing any women yesterday!

Good to know you've been keeping an eye on that for us, IS.

 

[Second Summer]

Good to know you've been keeping an eye on that for us, IS.

It's a helluva job, but somebody's got to do it!

On that note, I'd like to add that just because a person derives pleasure (on some level) from seeing nekkid ladies in the newspaper every day, that doesn't mean he can't at the same time be opposed to the practice of putting nekkid ladies there in the first place.

 

[Blobbenstein]

There must have been a first pornographic drawing....maybe in a cave thousands of years ago....

I find if I am unable to access pornography for long periods, I can make do with a few of my own drawings...

 

[Blobbenstein]

do people consider page 3 to be pornography?

it is nakedness in a sexual context, so I personally think it is. I liked page 3 when I was a teenager; got hold of some going for recycling...but now I don't think it really belongs in what is supposed to be a newspaper.

 

[Moll Flanders]

A lot of people online seem to think it's funny that The Sun got people to think that they were getting rid of Page 3.

I did laugh at Stella Creasy comments as she said that the paper going back to page 3 was like a drunken letchy uncle at a wedding that doesn't get the message.

 

[beancounter]

Wow, in the Puritan States of America, we keep our nekkid ladies on the top shelf wrapped in a plastic cover.

The US has odd priorities. Just the other day at a company lunch, a women told me she let's her kids watch violence, but fast-forwards through the sex scenes. .

 

[Moll Flanders]

The thing that bothers me a lot is how long this has been going on for. I remember sending a letter in protest or something back when I was a student in the 1990's.

Some people in the UK have a very odd attitude to breastfeeding, although I'm sure this happens in other countries too. This was about 10 years now but I used to work with young mothers and most would openly feed their babies in public and you would get shocked faces and tuts from passers-by as if they were being obscene. Completely ridiculous.

ETA I meant to add this news story about how women at a breastfeeding conference were told that it was inappropriate to breastfeed while they were attending. LOL.

Mothers banned from breastfeeding at breastfeeding conference - Telegraph

The US has odd priorities. Just the other day at a company lunch, a women told me she let's her kids watch violence, but fast-forwards through the sex scenes. .

I've had parents say the same type of thing to me.

 

[Spang]

If we didn't sexualize women's bodies, an image of a topless woman would be as trivial as that of a topless man.

 

[ledboots]

The thing that bothers me a lot is how long this has been going on for. I remember sending a letter in protest or something back when I was a student in the 1990's.

Some people in the UK have a very odd attitude to breastfeeding, although I'm sure this happens in other countries too. This was about 10 years now but I used to work with young mothers and most would openly feed their babies in public and you would get shocked faces and tuts from passers-by as if they were being obscene. Completely ridiculous.

ETA I meant to add this news story about how women at a breastfeeding conference were told that it was inappropriate to breastfeed while they were attending. LOL.

Mothers banned from breastfeeding at breastfeeding conference - Telegraph



I've had parents say the same type of thing to me.

In Florida, breastfeeding your child is legal everywhere. A friend of mine was the attorney who argued and won the case years ago. (A woman was asked to stop breastfeeding by a security guard at the Kennedy Space Center, if I remember it correctly.)

 

[ledboots]

And in England also,

"The Equality Act 2010 states that "it is unlawful for a business to discriminate against a woman because she is breastfeeding a child"."

Mother forced to cover up with large napkin while breastfeeding at Claridge's - Telegraph

" Mrs Burns, who worked in financial services, was having Christmas afternoon tea with her mother, sister and daughter when waiters rushed to cover her baby in a large napkin when they spotted her breastfeeding.

The mother-of-three from Streatham, who is married to Mighty Boosh and Nathan Barley actor Nick Burns, said she was mortified by having to cover up using the “ridiculous shroud”, and criticised the hotel’s “Victorian” policy."

 

[Moll Flanders]

I was thinking how social attitudes have changed a lot over the past two decades. I remember when I first went vegetarian at 17 I used to get a lot of stupid comments and the fact that I was a feminist and I didn't smoke cigarettes meant that I felt like I didn't fit in. I really felt like an outsider at times as all my friends were omni and smokers. I know a lot of teenagers feel that way anyway. More than 20 years on vegetarianism is much more mainstream, people, especially younger people are speaking out against sexism and smoking is banned from public places. In some ways things are improving but there still is a long way to go.

I do feel like an outsider at times still because of being a vegan but hopefully that will be mainstream in 20 years time.

And in England also,

"The Equality Act 2010 states that "it is unlawful for a business to discriminate against a woman because she is breastfeeding a child"."

Mother forced to cover up with large napkin while breastfeeding at Claridge's - Telegraph

" Mrs Burns, who worked in financial services, was having Christmas afternoon tea with her mother, sister and daughter when waiters rushed to cover her baby in a large napkin when they spotted her breastfeeding.

The mother-of-three from Streatham, who is married to Mighty Boosh and Nathan Barley actor Nick Burns, said she was mortified by having to cover up using the “ridiculous shroud”, and criticised the hotel’s “Victorian” policy."

Oh yes, I read about that. I think it's attitudes that need to catch up with the law.

 

[Clueless Git]

I think I see the pattern here.

Two boobies on public display is fine but one is not.

All these feeding mums have to do is pop the spare boobie out as well and everything should be fine.