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I don't have much of an opinion on this, but I think our founding fathers wanted states to have rights. They wouldn't be thrilled.
 
The founding fathers also approved of slavery, in some cases, and the rest of the founding fathers acquiesced in allowing slavery.

That hardly makes them moral arbiters whose opinions matter a great deal to me in this 21st century.
 
I've been on message boards for more than a decade and I've never met a liberal who believes in states having rights. No idea why. The Founding Fathers weren't perfect, but compared to our government today they look very good. You have to take the good aspects of our founding fathers and it's not happening.
 
I've been on message boards for more than a decade and I've never met a liberal who believes in states having rights. No idea why. The Founding Fathers weren't perfect, but compared to our government today they look very good. You have to take the good aspects of our founding fathers and it's not happening.

Slaveholders and those who acquiesce in slaveholding look good compared to a government that doesn't? O.K., then - no more needs to be said.
 
Such a close decision. Why does every major change have to be such a goddamn struggle? I mean, hell I'm happy as hell that our government isn't inflicting ancient Hebraic law on a group of people anymore, but damn, a little more solidarity would be nice. I'm probably asking for too much, but I can dream.
 
I don't have much of an opinion on this, but I think our founding fathers wanted states to have rights. They wouldn't be thrilled.
The only reason they couldn't marry in the first place, is because Christians decided it was against their religion to allow it.
It isn't up to individual states to decide who has to follow a certain religion, but it is up to the federal government to make sure everyone is free to decide for themselves.
 
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Conservatives (like Ted Cruz and Roy Moore) are freaking out, of course, and vowing to defy the SCOTUS ruling to prevent SSM. They say the fight isn’t over.
 
I used to be a Conserative Christian until i woke up... I couldn't tolerate the hate from the right and the abuse they use and also in churches as well... I keep on seeing people quoting that this is coming of age that the Lord will return , the end is very near right around the corner, they say this with everything that goes against their book. I didn't like that life and I don't want to be used for hatred and hurting people.
 
Conservatives (like Ted Cruz and Roy Moore) are freaking out, of course, and vowing to defy the SCOTUS ruling to prevent SSM. They say the fight isn’t over.
Defy them, how? "We appealed to God and HE agrees with us, so screw the gays."
These clowns remind me of an old Ozzy lyric:
Tell me I'm a sinner
I've got news for you.
I spoke to God this morning
And he don't like you.
 
I don't have much of an opinion on this, but I think our founding fathers wanted states to have rights. They wouldn't be thrilled.

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I've been on message boards for more than a decade and I've never met a liberal who believes in states having rights. No idea why. The Founding Fathers weren't perfect, but compared to our government today they look very good. You have to take the good aspects of our founding fathers and it's not happening.

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Perfect timing! The St Petersburg, Florida annual Gay Pride Parade is today! A mass marriage ceremony will be part of the festivities, and 250,000 people are expected to attend the parade! They extended the parade route an extra block to accomdate the expected crowds. :) So many happy people, gay in both senses of the word.
 
I don't have much of an opinion on this, but I think our founding fathers wanted states to have rights. They wouldn't be thrilled.
The so-called Founding Fathers probably wouldn't be thrilled that women are voting, or that Black people aren't slaves. They'd probably be terrified of automobiles and things that fly. Additionally, Thomas Jefferson would likely wonder why all those gay men aren't in prison or castrated.
In a paper written in time for the nation’s bicentennial 39 years ago, Louis Crompton noted that homosexuality was punishable by the death when this country began. Its abolition plodded through the states over the next few decades. (In 1792, Thomas Jefferson, Crompton notes, called for the castration of those found guilty of sodomy in a Virginia bill.) Penalties were reduced to imprisonment in most cases; South Carolina, perennially the last state to act in the name of its most vulnerable citizens, was slowest to change, repealing their death penalty only eight years after the Civil War.