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sequoia
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I HATE the majority of the ships I see on tumblr that aren't canon. Like Bubbline (Marceline and Princess Bubblegum from Adventure Time). Every time I see fanart of them making out or otherwise being sexy with each other I get irrationally angry. It seems that people just fetishize homosexual relationships and want characters to be with someone of the same sex, even if it doesn't make sense.
That having been said, I think Harry Potter and Draco Malfoy should be together.
That having been said, I think Harry Potter and Draco Malfoy should be together.
kibbleforlola
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My visual stimulation is making sure Lola doesn't eat the bubbles. 
FortyTwo
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The fetishization absolutely annoys the hell out of me. I think there are respectful ways to go about supporting character relationships, and there are ways that just make people look obsessed and disrespectful.
thefadedone
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I don't like rosemary either. Sage and I are cool though. It's not something I ever cook with though.
kazyeeqen
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das_nut
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It's progress, of a sorts. We've finally reached a point where homosexual shipping is indistinguishable from heterosexual shipping.
Now admittedly, it would be better for all of us if shippers didn't smoke the good stuff before coming up with their crazy tales, but one step at a time.
sequoia
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We're talking about the fetishization of it, which is NOT progress.
My friend dropped her husbands laptop in the bath...she wouldnt say why she was using it in the bath. I vote bath porn.
hungryraccoon
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I read/text/watch tv etc etc on my phone every bath time & have never ever dropped it in. Gotta hold on tight.
RabbitLuvr
I love rabbits.
Renee1
Rawry
That's an entirely valid question.
Fetishizing someone involves making them into an object. Surely you can see how that's problematic? Finding someone sexy is about the person themselves and the qualities they possess.
Draco and Harry together makes me want to fling myself off of a building. Draco is such a cowardly *******, he has no right to even look at Harry.
But to what degree is objectification of fictional characters wrong?
Let's say that I draw a painting of two characters that might not have compatible personalities, but because their outfits matches really good. Is that bad?
Or if I make a story in which characters possesses qualities that is not mentioned in canon so that I can make for a better romance or something. Is that bad?
And since many characters aren't really that fleshed out compared to real persons, would subjectivity have an influence in the matter of "forcing" a ship or not?
Renee1
Rawry
I don't think there are any hard and fast rules, Envy. It's all about examining your own reasons for thinking the way you do. It's not about the fact that they are fictional; it's about how that reflects how you see, and therefore treat, the non-fictional people that surround you in the so-called real world.
Muggle
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Jo on Draco:
It amuses me. It honestly amuses me. People have been waxing lyrical [in letters] about Draco Malfoy, and I think that's the only time when it stopped amusing me and started almost worrying me. I'm trying to clearly distinguish between Tom Felton, who is a good looking young boy, and Draco, who, whatever he looks like, is not a nice man. It’s a romantic, but unhealthy, and unfortunately all too common delusion of — delusion, there you go — of girls, and you [nods to Melissa] will know this, that they are going to change someone. And that persists through many women's lives, till their death bed, and it is uncomfortable and unhealthy and it actually worried me a little bit, to see young girls swearing undying devotion to this really imperfect character, because there must be an element in there, that "I'd be the one who [changes him]." I mean, I understand the psychology of it, but it is pretty unhealthy. So, a couple of times I have written back, possibly quite sharply, saying [Laughter], "You want to rethink your priorities here."
http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-2.htm (Ctrl+F for Draco and it's the first one)
I think part of the whole Harry/Draco thing is actually because of people wanting Tom and Dan together.
It amuses me. It honestly amuses me. People have been waxing lyrical [in letters] about Draco Malfoy, and I think that's the only time when it stopped amusing me and started almost worrying me. I'm trying to clearly distinguish between Tom Felton, who is a good looking young boy, and Draco, who, whatever he looks like, is not a nice man. It’s a romantic, but unhealthy, and unfortunately all too common delusion of — delusion, there you go — of girls, and you [nods to Melissa] will know this, that they are going to change someone. And that persists through many women's lives, till their death bed, and it is uncomfortable and unhealthy and it actually worried me a little bit, to see young girls swearing undying devotion to this really imperfect character, because there must be an element in there, that "I'd be the one who [changes him]." I mean, I understand the psychology of it, but it is pretty unhealthy. So, a couple of times I have written back, possibly quite sharply, saying [Laughter], "You want to rethink your priorities here."
http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-2.htm (Ctrl+F for Draco and it's the first one)
I think part of the whole Harry/Draco thing is actually because of people wanting Tom and Dan together.
I actually kinda liked Draco as a character. Sure, he is a douche, but he is a well-written douche. Far from being a "hurrh durrh I'm evil" person and instead having conflicting emotions, an interesting and influencing back-story and moments where you even can sympathize with him.
That makes sense.
As for me having bad or good views, well, that's an entirely different story altogether I guess.
That makes sense.
As for me having bad or good views, well, that's an entirely different story altogether I guess.
FortyTwo
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It's not even the shipping that bothers me. If someone thinks two characters are hot and thinks they would be hot together, and wants to write a fic of them or make art of them together, then that's fine to me, whether I agree with them or not, or even if it makes sense or not.
What bothers me is when these girls (and surely some guys) go on these huge rampages about their fictional gay characters and how cute and awesome they are and then just throws regular equality out the window, prioritizing fictional people and their rights over real ones. It's very much comparable to how plenty of straight men fantasize about lesbians, yet don't care for their actual rights. Both are disturbing practices.
What bothers me is when these girls (and surely some guys) go on these huge rampages about their fictional gay characters and how cute and awesome they are and then just throws regular equality out the window, prioritizing fictional people and their rights over real ones. It's very much comparable to how plenty of straight men fantasize about lesbians, yet don't care for their actual rights. Both are disturbing practices.
