Fish isn't a vegetable. (Pescararian)It has also inspired me to perform a research project for class to determine some common struggles new pescatarians/vegetarians/vegans face with their plant-based diets.
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Hi there. You make some good points. Vegans are interesting people. But, so are OMNIVORES, KETO, PALEO, AND CARNIVORE humans.the struggles I've had are:
- the ability to find vegan food
- that isn't going to cause me food sensitivities. I'm really sensitive to many vegan foods - soy, wheat, peanuts, alliums, caffeine, etc. - that there's very little far and few between with real, adequate choices and nutrition. Soy and wheat are in most fake meats - so there's not much after that except peas.
- it's so easy to be exposed to drugs and be drugged - as so many drugs come from plants that's in our regular food.
- too many chemicals that plants use to protect itself are either toxic or anti-nutrients - which make you unwell. It's hard to eat properly on a vegan diet.
- there just always seems to be added difficulties to get food
- you need to grow your own vegan food in order to get the right nutrients (like calcium - found in herbs) - which is hard
- you're surrounded by a lot of broken people if you meet other vegans
- too much peer pressure and directed anger at you if you don't want to be vegan - it's like a cult - once you're in - you can't really get out easily. Even if you're not in it - there's too much pressure to be in it. Another issue is that this behavior and pressuring's socially acceptable - which is bad
- since everyone has a different definition of what veganism is and isn't - vegans get angry at each other over decisions they think are vegan, but aren't and vice versa
- there's too many people telling others to go vegan without explaining to them how to properly be vegan and seeing if it's truly right for them
that said - even though there are difficulties in being vegan - there are just too many difficulties that are harder to face when not being vegan that I wouldn't really go back. A lot of difficulties in veganism is due to the symptoms of a non-vegan society and would go away if: 1) veganism was treated properly by vegans, 2) the world's more vegan. In essence, while it's hard to be vegan in some ways - those difficulties are way fewer and less in intensity.
I think your research project should incorporate the positive aspects to understand the negative ones.
If I remember correctly digitarian was a troll.Hi there. You make some good points. Vegans are interesting people. But, so are OMNIVORES, KETO, PALEO, AND CARNIVORE humans.
I do not worry about the fear-mongering "anti-nutrients". I think the doctor who promotes that works for the meat industry.
I have been an ethical whole food vegan for 25+ years and eat a variety of whole foods. Eat much of your produce plant raw,
which helps you retain more nutrients. I would however lighten up on swiss chard
and not just eating spinach for greens. If you are "allergic" to any food, stop eating it!.
Calcium is abundant in plant foods such as leafy greens. Eat your salads everyday.
I do think a lot about magnesium and zinc, which most vegans (and many omnivores) are low in).
I have been vegan for over 25 years and have no worries about calcium. I simply consume a lot of vegetables,
avoid processed foods, and eat most foods, raw., take B12, magnesium, zinc. I think taking supplements today is
absolutely necessary because the powers that be do not care about our nutrition. Produce is grown for yield and
size, not for nutrition. Most vegetables (and berries) are grown in hydroponic warehouses, not in soil.
The big issue with calcium is eating a lot of animal protein can pull calcium from our bones. from the excess protein.
Dairy products are known to create calcium problems for humans who consume it.
Also, humans who drink distilled and reverse-osmosis water are drinking water that lacks minerals, is acidic in pH, and is
not hydrating. That water in the body will pull calcium and minerals out of our bones to compensate. I have a Berkey s.s.
water filter system and enjoy it.
Calcium is an important mineral, but most humans are deficient in magnesium which helps with so many issues. cheers.
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I was unaware of the TROLL issue, he simply seemed like a complaining vegan making excuses.If I remember correctly digitarian was a troll.
While some of those points can be believed, can you really fall for it as a whole?
Without food stamps, I'd have a very difficult time buying fresh vegetables. I'd have to rely on the food bank, which isn't so bad, really.
My biggest gripe is the price of meals in restaurants around here.
Mexican - Beans & Rice - $9.
Chinese - Buddhist Delight - $16
Vietnamese - Veggie Platter - $16
Thai - Lemongrass Platter - $16
American - Veggie Platter w. Soup & Drink - $30.
I don't agree with this. I don't think the average person will get enough calcium without some kind of fortified food such as a plant milk.Calcium is abundant in plant foods such as leafy greens.
I think this is wrong. In particular, older people need more protein to ensure adequate calcium metabolism. As for calcium "problems", what exactly do you mean? Vegans should get sufficient protein and calcium so they will be getting the same as everyone else if they are doing it right. It is possible there can be problems related to too much calcium, but that is nothing to do with dairy. Personally I think dairy is a brilliant food. I just don't think it is ethical.The big issue with calcium is eating a lot of animal protein can pull calcium from our bones. from the excess protein.
Dairy products are known to create calcium problems for humans who consume it.
Well for one thing, vegan does not have to do with health. It has everything to do with ethics. The term "vegan diet" has been so abused to refer to a whole food plant based diet, that doesn't imply ethics, that the word vegan is losing it's meaning!I didn't notice any real struggle, for sure living in a modern Western country makes it pretty easy. It depends on how far one wants to go - does one want to be fruitarian or raw etc. We did plenty of research, checked bloods and so on and haven't found it at all difficult. At first, the biggest hurdle was just getting used to not having meat and dairy. I had no trouble with cheese because I don't care much for cheese anyway. I am also not a foodie, so wasn't getting all weird about flavours and taste etc.
As far as getting food when out and about, that WAS a bit of a problem in the early days when I took this all way too seriously. Nowadays if I can't find a decent vegan meal I will eat one with some meat in it, though I will typically only accept certain kinds of animals. I won't eat chicken, pork, bacon, or any crustacean. I will eat oysters, mussels, occasional fish and milk if necessary. Remember, this is if I am out and it is hard to get a good meal otherwise.
Something I often wonder about is the photos of meals vegans post online. So often, they are barely eating any calories and no protein.
I don't agree with this. I don't think the average person will get enough calcium without some kind of fortified food such as a plant milk.
I think this is wrong. In particular, older people need more protein to ensure adequate calcium metabolism. As for calcium "problems", what exactly do you mean? Vegans should get sufficient protein and calcium so they will be getting the same as everyone else if they are doing it right. It is possible there can be problems related to too much calcium, but that is nothing to do with dairy. Personally I think dairy is a brilliant food. I just don't think it is ethical.
True, but the OP's question was specifically about plant-based diets.Well for one thing, vegan does not have to do with health. It has everything to do with ethics.
I still don't think this is true. If you have evidence to support that, I'm all ears.Yes, excess protein does leach calcium through urine.
I think milk is the perfect food--for babies. it is full of hormones for the purpose of stimulating growth for that animal species.I didn't notice any real struggle, for sure living in a modern Western country makes it pretty easy. It depends on how far one wants to go - does one want to be fruitarian or raw etc. We did plenty of research, checked bloods and so on and haven't found it at all difficult. At first, the biggest hurdle was just getting used to not having meat and dairy. I had no trouble with cheese because I don't care much for cheese anyway. I am also not a foodie, so wasn't getting all weird about flavours and taste etc.
As far as getting food when out and about, that WAS a bit of a problem in the early days when I took this all way too seriously. Nowadays if I can't find a decent vegan meal I will eat one with some meat in it, though I will typically only accept certain kinds of animals. I won't eat chicken, pork, bacon, or any crustacean. I will eat oysters, mussels, occasional fish and milk if necessary. Remember, this is if I am out and it is hard to get a good meal otherwise.
Something I often wonder about is the photos of meals vegans post online. So often, they are barely eating any calories and no protein.
I don't agree with this. I don't think the average person will get enough calcium without some kind of fortified food such as a plant milk.
I think this is wrong. In particular, older people need more protein to ensure adequate calcium metabolism. As for calcium "problems", what exactly do you mean? Vegans should get sufficient protein and calcium so they will be getting the same as everyone else if they are doing it right. It is possible there can be problems related to too much calcium, but that is nothing to do with dairy. Personally I think dairy is a brilliant food. I just don't think it is ethical.
Thank you, ethics is very important and missed by omnivores when they damn vegans.Well for one thing, vegan does not have to do with health. It has everything to do with ethics. The term "vegan diet" has been so abused to refer to a whole food plant based diet, that doesn't imply ethics, that the word vegan is losing it's meaning!
WFPB diets have been very well researched as being healthful. It's quite hard for even the Dairy & pharma industry to defend dairy products, as more physicians are telling people to avoid them and having incredible results. I know many people who have given up dairy for everything from inflammatory issues, allergies and cholesterol and will not go back
Yes, excess protein does leach calcium through urine. While dark leafy greens, seeds, nuts all have great amounts of bio available calcium vegans do need to be sure they eat them
A Plant-Based Diet Can Build Strong Bones
The nutrients you need to build strong bones can be found by eating plants, without the negative health risks from milk and dairy products.www.pcrm.org
.I think milk is the perfect food--for babies. it is full of hormones for the purpose of stimulating growth for that animal species.
I believe animal protein causes calcium losses. This does not happen when humans consume PLANT proteins. One vegan doctor
stated he has never met someone with a calcium deficiency and do not worry about calcium (Mcdougall?).
Excess calcium can build up and cause health problems. here is two articles with video's mentioned. cheers.
If Calcium Supplements Aren’t Safe, What About Calcium in Food? | NutritionFacts.org
In 12 short years, government panels have gone from suggesting widespread calcium supplementation may be necessary to protect our bones to “do notnutritionfacts.orgThe Risks and Benefits of Calcium Supplements | NutritionFacts.org
There has been an assumption for decades that as a natural element, calcium supplements must intrinsically be safe. But, as I explore in my video Arenutritionfacts.org
.Also, humans who drink distilled and reverse-osmosis water are drinking water that lacks minerals, is acidic in pH, and is
not hydrating.
It's also ignored when wfpb folks damn vegansThank you, ethics is very important and missed by omnivores when they damn vegans.
We drink distilled every day and we haven't died either. We use tap water for everything else including coffee, tea, cooking so I am sure we are not lacking anything at all..
I drink reverse-osmosis water every day, and I haven't died from dehydration yet.
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