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Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump said Wednesday that a contested GOP convention could be a disaster if he goes to Cleveland a few delegates shy of 1,237 — and doesn't leave as the party's nominee.

"I think you'd have riots," Trump said on CNN.

Noting that he's "representing many millions of people," Trump told host Chris Cuomo: "If you disenfranchise those people, and you say, 'I'm sorry, you're 100 votes short' ... I think you'd have problems like you've never seen before. I think bad things would happen."
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Trump: ‘I think you’d have riots’ if contested convention results in a different nominee
 
Dedalus said:
In weighing out the 2 options the GOP has - to either accept Trump as one of them or risk riots, I think they may risk riots. When you hear the anti-Trump Republicans denouncing him, it just seems like it would be far too bitter a pill for them to swallow. The real question is who are they going to prop up to take his place?
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I'm more inclined to think that they will not do anything substantive to deny Trump the nomination. No one who has spoken out against Trump has been rewarded for it - quite the opposite. I don't think they have the will to do anything bold.
 
Mischief said:
I'm more inclined to think that they will not do anything substantive to deny Trump the nomination. No one who has spoken out against Trump has been rewarded for it - quite the opposite. I don't think they have the will to do anything bold.
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Good point, you may be right. In that case, it would be curious to see them (the establishment GOP'er's) turn on a dime and begin singing Trump's praises. It's no wonder the media can't take their focus off of this train wreck.
 
There will be progress on the streets every day if Trump is elected.
 
Andy_T said:
I had an interesting discussion with a work colleague today.

I am currently in Romania on a business trip, and we were discussing the political situation in Europe. I mentioned that I was concerned about the right-wing shift in Hungary, and she replied that she was much more concerned with the possibility of Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders getting elected as US president.

I was, of course, surprised and asked her why she was concerned, amont all other things, about Bernie Sanders possibly being elected as US president. She replied "But ... he is a SOCIALIST".

I had to explain to her that an American socialist was quite a bit different to a Romanian socialist (speak: former communist). I found it interesting that she would arrive at that conclusion, and I found it funny.
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Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt were both American socialist presidents, and are typically counted as two of our best. They were elected at times of national crisis, and are often considered to be 'saviors' of the country.
 
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3/21. Democrats Abroad have voted in over 170 overseas countries, and given Sanders 69% of the vote, Clinton, 31%. Bernie wins 9 delegates, Hillary, 4.
 
Wow.

I'm guessing a lot of those voters are living in socialist countries and like it, and they're hoping Bernie will help do the same for the US.
 
Hey! Let's all vote for someone we don't want. Yeah!
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/u...version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article
"Half of all voters said they would be scared if Mr. Trump were elected president, and another 19 percent said they would be concerned. Mrs. Clinton does not fare much better: Thirty-five percent of all voters said they would be scared if Mrs. Clinton won in November, and 21 percent said they would be concerned."
Nearly half of the population won't bother to vote anyway - vote for nobody!
Voter turnout in the United States presidential elections - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
robert99 said:
Hey! Let's all vote for someone we don't want. Yeah!
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/u...version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article
"Half of all voters said they would be scared if Mr. Trump were elected president, and another 19 percent said they would be concerned. Mrs. Clinton does not fare much better: Thirty-five percent of all voters said they would be scared if Mrs. Clinton won in November, and 21 percent said they would be concerned."
Nearly half of the population won't bother to vote anyway - vote for nobody!
Voter turnout in the United States presidential elections - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I've said it before: there needs to be a tax incentive to get people out to vote.
 
Update on the Democratic primaries and caucuses, as of "western Tuesday."

Arizona- Hillary won with 57% to Bernie's 39%.

Idaho- Bernie won with 78% to Hillary's 21%.

Utah- Bernie won with 79% to Hillary's 20%.

For the day, Sanders earned 21 delegates more than Clinton, narrowing the gap between them.

For those who are interested (I'm not,) Trump won Arizona, while Cruz took Utah.

Coming up this Saturday: Hawaii, Alaska, and Washington state.
 
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Indian Summer said:
That's interesting, the international news media I was reading implied that there were more delegates awarded to Clinton than to Sanders on the day.
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The numbers seem to vary from source to source. According to RealClearPolitics, Clinton was awarded 44 delegates for Arizona, 5 for Idaho, and 6 for Utah, while Sanders was given 30 for Arizona, 17 for Idaho, and 26 for Utah, a difference of 18 in Sanders' favor, which is 3 delegates less than an earlier report I read. My understanding is, in order to catch and surpass Hillary before the convention, Bernie needs to win 58% of the remaining delegates still to be earned.

These numbers do not include the superdelegates, which, contrary to popular belief, are not pledged at this time to either candidate, in spite of what mainstream media would have us believe. I'm trying to get a better handle on how the superdelegates work. It may be, the superdelegates won't vote at all, unless neither candidate reaches the 2/3 majority of earned delegates required for nomination, according to the Democratic party nominating rules.
 
Aracely Calderon, a naturalized citizen from Guatemala, arrived just before the polls closed at 7 pm in downtown Phoenix to vote in Arizona’s primary last night. “When Calderon arrived, the line spanned more than 700 people and almost 4 blocks,” the Arizona Republic reported. She waited in line for five hours, becoming the last voter in the state to cast a ballot at 12:12 am. “I’m here to exercise my right to vote,” she said shortly before midnight, explaining why she stayed in line.

But many other Arizonans left the polls in disgust. The lines were so long because election officials in Phoenix’s Maricopa County, the largest in the state, reduced the number of polling places by 70 percent from 2012 to 2016, from 200 to just 60—one polling place per every 21,000 voters.
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More: There Were 5-Hour Lines to Vote in Arizona Because the Supreme Court Gutted the Voting Rights Act (23. March 2016)
 
Indian Summer said:
More: There Were 5-Hour Lines to Vote in Arizona Because the Supreme Court Gutted the Voting Rights Act (23. March 2016)
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Not only that, but voters who had recently changed their party affiliation to Democrat, specifically to participate in the primary, at first were told they were ineligible to vote, because the party had failed to update its files; then, they were issued "provisional" ballots, which may or may not have been counted. The mayor of Phoenix has issued a call for a federal investigation into possible voter-suppression in his state. Apparently, it was a real mess.
 
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