News 2016 U.S. Presidential election - the highs and lows

Capstan said:
So, the journalistic media publishes stories based on profitability? That's bias, plain and simple, in favor of their corporate sponsors. It's not journalism. It's manipulation, to sell products, that abandons objectivity. Catering to what people "want" isn't journalism. It's horseshit.
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Journalism is a business. It caters to what the public wants, because if people don't tune in to a show, the channel/network can't sell advertising at a high enough price. If people don't buy the newspaper/magazine, the publisher can't pay the salaries and overhead.

Where do you think the money comes from to pay serious investigative journalists? From the heavens, like manna?
 
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Mischief said:
Journalism is a business. It caters to what the public wants, because if people don't tune in to a show, the channel/network can't sell advertising at a high enough price. If people don't buy the newspaper/magazine, the publisher can't pay the salaries and overhead.

Where do you think the money comes from to pay serious investigative journalists? From the heavens, like manna?
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There was a time in the US, from the introduction of television, an extension of radio- the first national medium- when journalism wasn't practiced as a business, but rather as a public service. The federal guidelines that regulated journalists have, in recent decades, been struck down by the same politicians who are now using the media to subjectively influence the democratic process.

As a service, journalism was paid for with revenue generated by other, legitimate entertainment programs, and quite successfully, with the result that the public at large was well-informed. The government is now allowing journalists to serve, not the public interest, but the government's own, and that of those who buy off the government. The concept that only capitalism can advance the general welfare is fallacious reasoning. That serious journalists are only those that are employed by the Big Monoliths (Time-Warner, Disney, Viacom, News Corp., CBS, and NBC/Universal) is also fallacious reasoning. What they are doing to generate the Almighty Dollar isn't journalism, but has wildly crossed the line into the realm of entertainment- a circus side-show, if you will- withholds information from the public, and is steering us toward being a fascist state.
 
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Indian Summer said:
Sanders is not a third party candidate. I was referring to the other political parties that I do believe exist in the US, but we don't get to hear about them very much because the news media, for whatever reasons, only cares for the two big parties currently in the Congress.
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Oh, okay, I see what you mean. I assumed you meant Bernie because on Facebook all I hear is how he doesn't get any media coverage and all the news stations ignore him. :rolleyes:
 
robert99 said:
US election 2016: Clashes near Trump rally in California - BBC News ... and I thought California was full of peace loving hippies ... :D
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Not entirely. Most of the peace-loving hippies are concentrated in Los Angeles and the Bay Area. The rally drew about 8,000 people, so I'm guessing they went to Costa Mesa from all over the Southland. These are the people angry that immigrants and Latinos have turned California into a very blue state, and they want Trump to become president so he can wave his magic wand, get rid of the "undesirables", and make California a red state again.
 
Looks like some of the Republican establishment might be finally lining up behind Trump. It sure took them a while ...
[Former Speaker of the House John] Boehner for the most part accepted Trump as the presumptive Republican nominee, though he did express his surprise at the candidate’s success. While he did not praise Trump’s policies, the former Speaker did say he would vote for Trump in the general election if he becomes the Republican nominee. He said he would not, however, vote for Cruz.
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He really isn't keen on Cruz:
“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former Speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a ***** in my life.”
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More: John Boehner talks election, time in office (April 28, 2016)

I think we've touched on this topic before, but note that Boehner is considered a moderate, and he clearly prefers Trump over Cruz. I think the "anyone-but-Trump" attitude I detect with some liberals is mistaken. Cruz would be a nightmare of a president.
 
Indian Summer said:
I think we've touched on this topic before, but note that Boehner is considered a moderate, and he clearly prefers Trump over Cruz. I think the "anyone-but-Trump" attitude I detect with some liberals is mistaken. Cruz would be a nightmare of a president.
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I think you are correct. Trump is woefully ignorant and would certainly be learning as he went along.... Cruz on the other hand is a piece of slime that is smart and savvy to the way things work. Ultimately a president Cruz would do a whole lot of horrible damage. A lot of people would suffer under a president Cruz... If I had to take a guess at it, he would make it a priority to undo the hard work put into progressing LGBT rights, and would also chizel away at women's rights. I still feel conflicted about how I feel between those two in the scenario that either of them actual won. It's truly Stupid vs motherfucking Evil
 
“Weiner” aka "The Carlos Danger Story"
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/m...film-is-about-medias-sensationalism.html?_r=0
"What we’re trying to do with this film is to show how much the political conversation is driven by these easy narratives and sensational headlines and one-liners."
"“Weiner,” which will be released theatrically in May by Sundance Selects and then be broadcast on Showtime in October ..." just before the Presidential Election - if Clinton's the Democrat's choice it might be ... hum ... delayed :D
 
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robert99 said:
“Weiner” aka "The Carlos Danger Story"
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/m...film-is-about-medias-sensationalism.html?_r=0
"What we’re trying to do with this film is to show how much the political conversation is driven by these easy narratives and sensational headlines and one-liners."
"“Weiner,” which will be released theatrically in May by Sundance Selects and then be broadcast on Showtime in October ..." just before the Presidential Election - if Clinton's the Democratics choice is might be ... hum ... delayed :D
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I read that! On actual paper! LMAO :p Well, I'm a big fan of the crossword puzzles, so.... I like old-school paper & pencil. Maybe a pen on a Monday puzzle, if I'm feeling dangerous.... :weird:
 
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