Horse meat in 'beef burgers'

[ledboots]

They opened an Ikea near here a few years ago, but I haven't been there. They sent me a ridiculous book of a catalog that ****** me off, such a waste. The stuff did look nice, though.

 

[thefadedone]

I thought they just sold bad cheap furniture.

The store by me has a cafeteria and some sort of deli-like thing as well.
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Is that common in most Ikea stores? I've never lived near one or been inside one before. I feel deprived.

 

[Alice-Bee]

I thought all Ikea were the same.

We have two cafes in the one near me. Well one that serves hot food and meals and one that just does coffee and cake.

 

[Pirate]

As for the dig at the furniture, in my experience, for the price, it's not bad. Unlike a lot of furniture for the same price, the Ikea stuff seems to be designed to hold up under normal use (I'm looking at you, cheap Walmart furniture!). And a decent amount of their furniture is real wood, not wood composites, which is nicer than most of the furniture in the same price range.

i think its just a case of "you get what you pay for". I buy stuff in Ikea cause its cheap but know itll need to be replaced in a few years, and dont see anything wrong in that.

As for the horses. All the omnis I know dont care about eating a horse. They are more concerned with being tricked and the safety aspect of it as the meat is clearly unregulated. There's been some concern over bute which causes some kind of blood disorder in humans. I live in London though so not really a horsey area - im sure if it was cats or dogs in the food they'd feel differently.

 

[ledboots]

As for the dig at the furniture, in my experience, for the price, it's not bad. Unlike a lot of furniture for the same price, the Ikea stuff seems to be designed to hold up under normal use (I'm looking at you, cheap Walmart furniture!). And a decent amount of their furniture is real wood, not wood composites, which is nicer than most of the furniture in the same price range.

i think its just a case of "you get what you pay for". I buy stuff in Ikea cause its cheap but know itll need to be replaced in a few years, and dont see anything wrong in that.

As for the horses. All the omnis I know dont care about eating a horse. They are more concerned with being tricked and the safety aspect of it as the meat is clearly unregulated. There's been some concern over bute which causes some kind of blood disorder in humans. I live in London though so not really a horsey area - im sure if it was cats or dogs in the food they'd feel differently.

Most American omnis seem to get a queasy look about them when eating horse meat is brought up.

I don't know if I've posted about this before, but they are quietly getting ready to approve the first horse slaughterhouse in the United Stares. The law against it lapsed in 2007. This plant is ready to start killing horses as soon as it gets aporoval.

This is from yesterday. http://bostonglobe.com/business/201...eat-scandal/6SvMEKVgPwwkzLnftjIVwK/story.html

"NEW YORK — With a horse meat controversy raging in Europe, the US Department of Agriculture is likely to approve a horse slaughtering plant in New Mexico in the next two months — making it the first time since 2007 that equine meat suitable for human consumption will be produced in the United States."

 

[Pickle Juice]

Not enough people realize that this sort of thing is done to sell the meat to foreign countries. Like American puppy mills. They don't just churn out dogs for the pet trade. They also sell to Asian dog meat consumers. Plenty of American bears get killed and sold to Asia too.

 

[ledboots]

Not enough people realize that this sort of thing is done to sell the meat to foreign countries. Like American puppy mills. They don't just churn out dogs for the pet trade. They also sell to Asian dog meat consumers. Plenty of American bears get killed and sold to Asia too.

I didn't know about the bears.

 

[das_nut]

As for the dig at the furniture, in my experience, for the price, it's not bad. Unlike a lot of furniture for the same price, the Ikea stuff seems to be designed to hold up under normal use (I'm looking at you, cheap Walmart furniture!). And a decent amount of their furniture is real wood, not wood composites, which is nicer than most of the furniture in the same price range.

i think its just a case of "you get what you pay for". I buy stuff in Ikea cause its cheap but know itll need to be replaced in a few years, and dont see anything wrong in that.

I don't think I've broken anything from Ikea yet, but I avoid their chintzy plastic things. I also avoid the few products they have that are particle board.

Some of their stuff seems really good. I have a collapsible metal drying rack from them (the Ikea Frost), and it's been amazingly durable for being used weekly for a few years.

 

[Envy]

I think I read an article about people buying more horse meat after the scandal.

At least here.

 

[thefadedone]

As for the horses. All the omnis I know dont care about eating a horse. They are more concerned with being tricked and the safety aspect of it as the meat is clearly unregulated. There's been some concern over bute which causes some kind of blood disorder in humans. I live in London though so not really a horsey area - im sure if it was cats or dogs in the food they'd feel differently.

I can understand that. I'd be pretty damn ****** off also if I were lied to about what exactly I was eating.

Not enough people realize that this sort of thing is done to sell the meat to foreign countries. Like American puppy mills. They don't just churn out dogs for the pet trade. They also sell to Asian dog meat consumers. Plenty of American bears get killed and sold to Asia too.

I didn't know any of this. I thought puppy mills primarily breed puppies just for profit. I didn't consider that they would sell them for "meat". I thought breeders were horrible awful people before but now they sound even worse.

 

[Pickle Juice]

As for the horses. All the omnis I know dont care about eating a horse. They are more concerned with being tricked and the safety aspect of it as the meat is clearly unregulated. There's been some concern over bute which causes some kind of blood disorder in humans. I live in London though so not really a horsey area - im sure if it was cats or dogs in the food they'd feel differently.

I can understand that. I'd be pretty damn ****** off also if I were lied to about what exactly I was eating.

Not enough people realize that this sort of thing is done to sell the meat to foreign countries. Like American puppy mills. They don't just churn out dogs for the pet trade. They also sell to Asian dog meat consumers. Plenty of American bears get killed and sold to Asia too.

I didn't know any of this. I thought puppy mills primarily breed puppies just for profit. I didn't consider that they would sell them for "meat". I thought breeders were horrible awful people before but now they sound even worse.

Yes. It's why we need laws in every state outlawing them. Boycotting puppy mills isn't going to shut them down. They'll sell to whoever wants to buy, and if they can't sell them to people for pets they will sell them to people for food or to labs for experimenting on. While it is against some city ordinances for restaurants in the US to serve dog or cat, it is not illegal to sell dogs and cats to people in other countries who want them for meat.

 

[mlp]

I don't think I've broken anything from Ikea yet, but I avoid their chintzy plastic things. I also avoid the few products they have that are particle board.

Some of their stuff seems really good. I have a collapsible metal drying rack from them (the Ikea Frost), and it's been amazingly durable for being used weekly for a few years.

I no longer own anything anything that can't be washed, so my two chairs from Ikea are the only *upholstered* furniture I have (the covers can be removed and machine washed). They have been remarkably durable, considering the heavy use that they get.

 

[das_nut]

I don't think I've broken anything from Ikea yet, but I avoid their chintzy plastic things. I also avoid the few products they have that are particle board.

Some of their stuff seems really good. I have a collapsible metal drying rack from them (the Ikea Frost), and it's been amazingly durable for being used weekly for a few years.

I no longer own anything anything that can't be washed, so my two chairs from Ikea are the only *upholstered* furniture I have (the covers can be removed and machine washed). They have been remarkably durable, considering the heavy use that they get.

Are those these chairs:

I've been thinking about replacing our old couch with two of these chairs. I need something small for the living room to replace an old futon that's out there.

 

[mlp]

Yes, those are the chairs. I find them extremely comfortable. I am prone to backaches, and, for me, these chairs have been a godsend.

 

[das_nut]

I've sat in those chairs at Ikea, and I'm leaning towards them.

I'm not finding anything at thrift stores that would really work in my house and be comfortable.

How long have you had those chairs, and have you noticed any problems?

 

[mlp]

Seven years. One was my ex's (now being used by dogs and cats ), the other one mine. Any time I'm sitting, it's in that chair, so heavy use indeed. Actually, the bolt on one side finally broke today ( I tend to lean into that side when I'm on the laptop or knitting, which is almost all the time), so I traded my chair for my ex's until I go to the hardware store. Other than that, the only damage is from Ziggy, one of my macaws, chewing a small hole in one of the covers and chewing some chips into the arms.

The covers on the chairs I have is microsuede, which has held up like a champ to claws, fur, and many washings.

 

[das_nut]

I'm not sure if I've seen the microsuede cover. I'll have to check at Ikea.

Obviously, when I say I'm considering buying these chairs for myself, it's a lie. Everyone here knows they are going to be cat chairs, first and foremost.

 

[mlp]

Mine are cat approved as well as dog approved. There's generally a cat lying on the headrest behind my head.

They may not have a microsuede cover available currently - I don't think they did the last time I checked.

 

[Muggle]

We have an awesome 4-seater sofa (it's 2 and a half metres long) from Ikea. It's very much dog approved. It's white though (it was the cheapest option) but the cover can be removed and machine-washed. We still have two big throws which we cover it with to protect it from the worst of the dogs.
It's 4 years old and we've had no problems with it.

Anyway, I posted in the STOS thread some of the things I've seen people say on other forums about eating horse meat. I'll link to them when I get back onto my laptop.

 

[Spang]