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Is veganism sustainable in the long run?
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I guess I have "vegan eyes" every day after a shitty on-call night.
isaacrob181
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A vegan diet is far more sustainable than meat-based diets. A vegan diet requires substantially less farmland and produces substantially fewer animal waste products, which means it is better for the environment. Furthermore, it takes significantly less water to produce a pound of vegetables than it does to produce a pound of meat.
Additionally, as the global demand for food increases as developing countries become more affluent and Westernized, growing crops for human consumption will be necessary even if we do not continue raising animals for food production. If we want to meet that increasing need without destroying or diverting natural habitats and environments into agricultural fields then we'll need an alternative food source that minimizes agricultural impacts on the environment; veganism offers this opportunity.
Additionally, as the global demand for food increases as developing countries become more affluent and Westernized, growing crops for human consumption will be necessary even if we do not continue raising animals for food production. If we want to meet that increasing need without destroying or diverting natural habitats and environments into agricultural fields then we'll need an alternative food source that minimizes agricultural impacts on the environment; veganism offers this opportunity.
I think the OP mains "sustainability" in the sense of "sustainable for the individual".
I can not imagine how eating animal products is healthier than a vegan diet. My family eats lots of peanut butter sandwiches. Thus, we are covered from a protein standpoint. We do eat a multivitamin and a calcium pill every day just to be safe because our calcium consumption went way down after we went vegan.
If there is an argument about the health benefit of animal products, then I would really like to hear it. I just do not think that such an argument exists.
Nobody in his right mind wants me to return to dairy. I would pass more gas than a grass-fed cow.
If there is an argument about the health benefit of animal products, then I would really like to hear it. I just do not think that such an argument exists.
Nobody in his right mind wants me to return to dairy. I would pass more gas than a grass-fed cow.
Sproutskies
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Lou
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Stumbled upon this article in my newsfeed this morning. Its a very refreshing positive take on veganism. A lot of the lines resonated with me. Haven't I said these things, too?
I could have put it almost anywhere but this thread makes sense. Plus its currently active.
Some good quotes from the article.
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I could have put it almost anywhere but this thread makes sense. Plus its currently active.
Some good quotes from the article.
"I wish I had known that when I was trying to cut cheese out of my diet — that part of the reason I was craving it, was because I was eating it," says Byrne. "After a certain amount of time without it, those cravings went away."
Instead of thinking of the diet as a way to cut out certain foods (which, I mean, was kind of the whole point), I was told to consider it as an excuse to add new ones in.
if this way of eating means I will eat more healthfully, maintain a diet that is more closely aligned to my ethics, and still enjoy all the food I make, well, why not stick with it?
I went vegan for 30 days as an experiment. Here’s why I’m sticking with it.
I tried a vegan diet for 30 days. Here's everything that happened.
500channelsurfer
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Instead of thinking of the diet as a way to cut out certain foods (which, I mean, was kind of the whole point), I was told to consider it as an excuse to add new ones in.
I went vegan for 30 days as an experiment. Here’s why I’m sticking with it.
I tried a vegan diet for 30 days. Here's everything that happened.
I follow Lou's article's point as to becoming vegan. I created a new diet for myself, with the goal making a diet that is both sustainable for nature and my own health. This new diet I was now eating was vegan as a result of being more sustainable, not sustainable as a result of being vegan. I added to my diet so many new foods that they outnumbered the meat and dairy I was not longer consuming.
There was no replacing individual foods, there was improving an entire diet.
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There are vegan groups all around the world. Even long life groups that eat some animal products, only consume a very limited amount. I saw a study that showed that the isolated long life Mediterranean groups only ate animal products about 3-4 times a month.
Then there is the whole issue of lactose intolerance. Non-Whites are between 75-90% lactose intolerant.
If people follow a bad diet they are malnourished. That is the issue with many of the new products. It probably would be healthier to make a Lentil Bolognese, rather than a Beyond Beef Bolognese, but most people haven't learned the value of a diverse diet.
I've found that anything meat inspired can be quickly changed into a healthy plant based recipe, with just the addition of a can of beans
Chicken curry = chickpea curry
Creamy chicken vegetable soup= (White beans in a blender) Creamy bean vegetable soup
Meat and vegetable salad=Black bean vegetable salad.
I'm really impressed with this guy. He does have some meat and fish recipes, but most of his recipes are either vegan, or easy to convert to vegan. He makes a LOT of bean based recipes.
He also has a YouTube channel
The MOTHER of ALL Chickpea Stews | Spanish Chickpea & Spinach Stew
This Spanish Chickpea & Spinach Stew is packed with flavors, easy to make and done in just 30 minutes. Vegan + Gluten Free recipe.
spainonafork.com
There are vegan groups all around the world. Even long life groups that eat some animal products, only consume a very limited amount. I saw a study that showed that the isolated long life Mediterranean groups only ate animal products about 3-4 times a month.
Then there is the whole issue of lactose intolerance. Non-Whites are between 75-90% lactose intolerant.
If people follow a bad diet they are malnourished. That is the issue with many of the new products. It probably would be healthier to make a Lentil Bolognese, rather than a Beyond Beef Bolognese, but most people haven't learned the value of a diverse diet.
I've found that anything meat inspired can be quickly changed into a healthy plant based recipe, with just the addition of a can of beans
Chicken curry = chickpea curry
Creamy chicken vegetable soup= (White beans in a blender) Creamy bean vegetable soup
Meat and vegetable salad=Black bean vegetable salad.
I'm really impressed with this guy. He does have some meat and fish recipes, but most of his recipes are either vegan, or easy to convert to vegan. He makes a LOT of bean based recipes.
He also has a YouTube channel
The MOTHER of ALL Chickpea Stews | Spanish Chickpea & Spinach Stew
This Spanish Chickpea & Spinach Stew is packed with flavors, easy to make and done in just 30 minutes. Vegan + Gluten Free recipe.
agree completely and I really like the Spain on a Fork guy and many of his recipes - I have spent a fair amount of time in Spain and so always have a soft spot for all foods spanish
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I also love Spanish cuisine as they use a lot of evo/almonds/smoked paprika and med style vegetables.
@Sproutskies
I saw those sexy vegan eyes. It just isn't fair. Why can't I have vegan eyes?I do not even have a vegan belly. I have a Santa Claus Belly.
Ginzuishou
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Anyone can look bad in certain lighting and at certain angles, and this is what those deterioration videos do. They also fail to showcase the plant-based athletes and body builders who have amazing bodies and amazing health. It's just propaganda against a plant-based lifestyle. A plant-based diet is adequate for all stages of life. The makers of the deterioration videos are not able to back up any of their claims.
Has anyone heard of
Site says she has been vegan 30 years.
Veg for 30 years, vegan for 10 now. Definitely not starving or otherwise deficient.
FlandersOD
Forum Practitioner
Yes i've been fully vegan by what you mean by vegan since the beginning of when i was on this forum.
with only minor hickups.[most people wouldn't even consider hickups t.b.h.], it's actually technically easy; i don't see how it would be more complex or difficult after 30~40 or even 50 years.
with only minor hickups.[most people wouldn't even consider hickups t.b.h.], it's actually technically easy; i don't see how it would be more complex or difficult after 30~40 or even 50 years.
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