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I think the health concern with margarine was always trans fats. And I'm not even sure that was real. but its a moot point now. most margarines don't contain any or just a very small amount. And that is maybe the other issue. If a serving has less than 0.9 g of transfat they let them "round down" to 0. So there is some deception going on there.

But it's not like butter is healthy. An interesting thing that I learned last week is that the same journal that green-lighted meat last week also was responsible for the "butter is back" stuff.

Vegan butter is just "plant fat". and any fat in large enough quantities is bad for you. Its just that animal fats are even worse. For us, for the animals and the planet.

I have some kind of margarine in my frig. I can't remember which kind but i use it in recipes sometimes. Oh, and for making grilled cheese sandwiches.

But that company that is hoping that vegan butter will catch on might have a legal battle on their hands. I think the places that have outlawed using the words meat and milk to describe vegan products will also fight vegan butter.



It used to contain trans fats, which I believe are pretty much phased out in 2019, except for maybe one brand.

Also the reason margarine would get a plant based or vegan make over is by removing the whey or casein. However Smart Balance Light has been "accidentally vegan" for years and is a dollar or two cheaper than Earth Balance. Good news for bargain shoppers and poor people and those in backward towns, but I don't know if it's as ethically sourced as EB.

Isn't margarine pretty unhealthy? I guess I haven't looked into it in years/from a plant-based diet perspective but that's the impression I had. Is that just dairy industry propaganda?

Wikipedia says "regular margarine" contains trace amounts of whey or dairy casein.

I watch their videos too. And my news feed picks up their stories all the time.

I love all these good Vegan news stories. Although I am beginning to get tired of plant-based burger news. (Next up the Awesome Burger and a Vegan Bacon Cheese Burger.
































































































































































































































































































































































































































































Oh, I saw a commercial today for plant-based butter. I guess a company bought off some margarine company that wasn't doing to well and they are betting that plant-based butter is going to be the next big thing.


This is a good YouTube channel also for plant based news, I have been watching it for awhile.

Emma JC



You can post any links concerning products or vegan news on this thread.

BTW, should we have a forum dedicated to documentaries?

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I've been thinking we should have just one thread dedicated to documentaries here.

So here it is.

I think this news is a good place to start. Forks Over Knives leaves Netflix on Wednesday, July 15.

if you haven't seen it you need to crawl out from under your rock and go check it out. I do realize that some don't have Netflix in which case you can still rent it online or go to the library and check it out. Just google it. or maybe some other forum users can suggest other ways to view it.

Most of us here have seen it. And it would be great if we could get some of our family, friends, and neighbors to watch it. Perhaps this weekend being the last chance to see it on Netflix might be a good motivator. So maybe mention it to them today.

It isn't the best documentary of its kind. If I could only recommend one plant-based food doc this one would not be it. But it was one of the first and I think it's just as good now as it was in 2011.


Not quite related to this thread theme, but i couldn't help sharing this (the interview appeared 4 hrs ago, at ~10+ p.m. Moscow time). It's Neal Barnard talking to Moby! (Aug.14th, 2020). It's obviously a release by PCRM.

Yay!🏎️🏆🎇🎆 It was today, and even our local tv channels couldn't miss this news.
I guess, everyone knows that this incredible personality is vegan, but just in case...
If i understand it correctly, last summer, he opened his own vegan restaurant, and this summer, his dog also became vegan:


Problem solved:

New FDA guidance says plant-based beverages are ‘milk,’ too



The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued draft guidance this week saying manufacturers of almond, soy, oat and other plant-based milk alternatives can continue to use the word milk as part of product titles, though they can’t just say milk. They have to specify “soy milk” or “rice milk” or “oat milk,” for example.

Store shelves feature a number of milk alternatives, including “soy, rice, almond, cashew, coconut, flaxseed, hazelnut, hemp seed, macadamia nut, oat, pea, peanut, pecan, quinoa and walnut-based beverages,” the FDA guidance says. Most of them use the word “milk.”

The FDA said that consumers understand those products do not contain milk from animals and are comfortable with the word being used for plant-based beverages. The agency noted that in many cases, that the plant-based products are not dairy milk is precisely why some purchase it.
 
Problem solved:

New FDA guidance says plant-based beverages are ‘milk,’ too



The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued draft guidance this week saying manufacturers of almond, soy, oat and other plant-based milk alternatives can continue to use the word milk as part of product titles, though they can’t just say milk. They have to specify “soy milk” or “rice milk” or “oat milk,” for example.
not sure if this is the end of the story.

First off take note that this is a "Draft Guidance"
And this is just the FDA.
As far as I can tell, only North Carolina has actually passed a law banning plant milk companies from using the word "milk".
But many states are in the process, including Maryland, Kentucky, New York, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Virginia, and West Virginia.There may even be a bill pending in congress.
Not sure how this FDA guidance will affect those states.
 
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not sure if this is the end of the story.

First off take note that this is a "Draft Guidance"
And this is just the FDA.
As far as I can tell, only North Carolina has actually passed a law banning plant milk companies from using the word "milk".
But many states are in the process, including Maryland, Kentucky, New York, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Virginia, and West Virginia.There may even be a bill pending in congress.
Not sure how this FDA guidance will affect those states.
I doubt this goes anywhere. The word, "milk" becomes meaningless then. It's a very, very specific liquid that is produced by a mammal for its young, and not just any old watery, whitish liquid. I don't drink excessive amounts of oat, hemp or almond milk, but it is pretty clearly just a marketing ploy. For whatever reason, those companies' strategist believe that the customer base will divest itself from dairy, and not flavored water, soda, juice, kombucha, etc., and it's easier to rape the old definition of milk into oblivion than to develop a new product-type name.
 
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I doubt this goes anywhere.
It's actually gone somewhere already.
A lot of companies have stopped using the word milk just in order to avoid court battles and/or have to change the name on the package later.
For instance, Trader Joe's Almond Juice. I don't keep track of what is happening abroad - but I remember reading articles about it from other countries too.

But yeah it's kind of stupid.