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[Jamie in Chile]

Capitol attack prompts top US firms to pull funding for leading Republicans​

Capitol attack prompts top US firms to pull funding for leading Republicans

Companies such as Citigroup, Marriott and Blue Cross Blue Shield are deserting lawmakers who backed Trump’s bid to overturn Biden’s victory

www.theguardian.com

Republicans face growing corporate backlash after Capitol assault

Republicans in the U.S. Congress faced growing blowback on Monday from businesses that said they would cut off campaign contributions to those who voted last week to challenge President-elect Joe Biden's victory.

www.reuters.com

The impeachment discussions will not likely go anywhere. Instead of that, this (above links) should really be the top story today in my opinion.

PS Schwarzenegger speech even seen on Chilean TV yesterday - an extract of it. i think it was a good speech. Thanks for sharing.

 

[peacefulveglady]

Did anyone catch his life address this morning? All i heard was about the wall and no violence.

 

[Jamie in Chile]

I think you're referring to a speech given by Trump this morning? probably this one:

Speech is from 3 min to 25 min in the above video, so 22 min long

To summarize:

He spoke only a small amount about recent major news and them mostly about the wall.

Talks about incoming administration - appears to have accepted that he has lost and given up challenging results. this is consistent with recent speech and actions. nothing new or different.

25th amendment will not work against me, he says, no chance.

They were a "mob" that stormed the capitol, then talked about law and order.

Speak mostly about the wall says it's a good wall, will work.
He says they have 450 miles of wall - (checking on wikipedia this appears to be correct but wikipedia says "all but about 47 miles being replacement of existing outdated or dilapidated barriers.")

Funnily enough if you look at the video it looks like the wall behind is such a tiny section it doesn't.
even fill the screen behind him? unless that's misleading, maybe it just curves out of sight.

Talks about arresting illegal immigrants with serious crime records, changes in immigration policy he made.

He is very grateful to the people who help secure the US's borders, some of whom are in the small, socially distanced crowd.

Claims that Mexico is suffering with coronavirus and the wall helped USA out coronavirus from coming to USA (just fact checking this on worldometers and the reported death rate per capita is higher in the US both recently and throughout the pandemic so this is probably a false claim unless Mexico is under reporting)

He is not raging or falling into insanity looking at this. He looks quite relaxed and content. Then again, maybe he was just in a good mood at this moment.

 

[Jamie in Chile]

I saw this funny article on the Washington Post. I assume it's about all the people that are resigning from the Trump administration, like as someone claimed earlier on this thread (I forget who), rats only going as the ship starts to sink.

Or maybe it´s just about Star Wars. Anyway, it´s funny.

Opinion | I see no choice but to resign from this Death Star as it begins to explode - The Washington Post

 

[Lou]

I saw this funny article on the Washington Post. I assume it's about all the people that are resigning from the Trump administration, like as someone claimed earlier on this thread (I forget who), rats only going as the ship starts to sink.

Or maybe it´s just about Star Wars. Anyway, it´s funny.

Opinion | I see no choice but to resign from this Death Star as it begins to explode - The Washington Post

Nice! I even signed up for her newsletter.

On October 17, Dan Rather tweeted,
"It’s tempting to use the analogy of rats fleeing a sinking ship to describe the growing number of Republican elected officials starting to speak out against Donald Trump. But that's really not fair to rats, who tend not to be complicit in driving ships to the bottom of the sea."

 

[anarchist100]

Nice! I even signed up for her newsletter.

On October 17, Dan Rather tweeted,
"It’s tempting to use the analogy of rats fleeing a sinking ship to describe the growing number of Republican elected officials starting to speak out against Donald Trump. But that's really not fair to rats, who tend not to be complicit in driving ships to the bottom of the sea."

It's lonely being a non-partisan vegan.

 

[David3]

It's lonely being a non-partisan vegan.

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There are lots of non-partisan vegan anarchists around, but they are usually younger than most people on this forum.

30 years ago, our local Food Not Bombs chapter was organized by vegan anarchists, and I imagine that this is still true today.
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[Lou]

It's lonely being a non-partisan vegan.

is an anarchist non-partisan or anti-partisan?
Either way, I am a firm believer of using your vote to move the needle is better than not voting or in the case of close campaigns, throwing your vote away.
I'd love to see a viable more liberal third party here in America. But not if it means more Republicans get elected.

 

[Emma JC]

is an anarchist non-partisan or anti-partisan?

that's what I was wondering and can one be both?

Emma JC
Find your vegan soulmate or just a friend. www.spiritualmatchmaking.com

 

[David3]

It's lonely being a non-partisan vegan.

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From the California of my youth: Early 1990s interview with Orange County anarchist vegans. Includes Jang Wuk Lee, publisher of the "Beyond the Wall of Injustice" zine:

 

[KLS52]

So I’m leaning more towards this rushed impeachment being a mistake. I think the part that is swaying me is the fact that it’s being done without following due process. That seems really wrong to me. I wouldn’t mind if someone has information to sway me back again.

 

[Lou]

This article got pointed out to me.
Its really good reporting, something that the Atlantic is well known for. Its a deep dive, well researched, and well thought out. Not funny like that Washington Post Op Ed but a little light hearted at times.

What Those Animal Pelts Tell Us About the Future of the Far Right

The seditionist frontiersmen of the Capitol riot certainly meant to send a message through their clothing. But what was it?

www.theatlantic.com

 

[David3]

This article got pointed out to me.
Its really good reporting, something that the Atlantic is well known for. Its a deep dive, well researched, and well thought out. Not funny like that Washington Post Op Ed but a little light hearted at times.

What Those Animal Pelts Tell Us About the Future of the Far Right

The seditionist frontiersmen of the Capitol riot certainly meant to send a message through their clothing. But what was it?

www.theatlantic.com

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Modern media prominence of people who embrace the Aryan Myth, also embraced by Hitler: The Great Aryan Myth on JSTOR . The "Germanic superman" and all that.
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[Second Summer]

What Those Animal Pelts Tell Us About the Future of the Far Right

The seditionist frontiersmen of the Capitol riot certainly meant to send a message through their clothing. But what was it?

www.theatlantic.com

I don't get why they're saying Angeli is wearing a (non-authentic) Viking helmet. Yes, I see the horns, but where's the helmet? Maybe I didn't look closely enough. Anyway, to me it looks more like Native American head-gear.

 

[Lou]

I don't get why they're saying Angeli is wearing a (non-authentic) Viking helmet. Yes, I see the horns, but where's the helmet? Maybe I didn't look closely enough. Anyway, to me it looks more like Native American head-gear.

You're right, it does look more Native American.
However, it seems like Angeli himself is going with a Viking or norse motif, i.e. his tatoos

US Capitol riot: the myths behind the tattoos worn by ‘QAnon shaman’ Jake Angeli

What did all those weird tattoos mean?

theconversation.com

 

[David3]

You're right, it does look more Native American.
However, it seems like Angeli himself is going with a Viking or norse motif, i.e. his tatoos

US Capitol riot: the myths behind the tattoos worn by ‘QAnon shaman’ Jake Angeli

What did all those weird tattoos mean?

theconversation.com

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Yes! The white supremacy movement has co-opted ancient symbols before. The Nazi swastika was co-opted from the peaceful Eurasian swastika - a very old spiritual symbol within Buddhism, Hinduim, and Jainism: Swastika - Wikipedia
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[KLS52]

IMPEACHED

222 Dems + 10 Republicans = 232 Yea

197 Nay

 

[Lou]

I watched some of the proceedings and I was impressed with a few of the Republican Congressman who voted to impeach. I read that some major Democratic donors are setting up "rescue" funds for them. I guess that is the nice thing to do. Maybe even the smart thing to do. Might help to get some Republican Senators to vote to impeach.

However, they just made themselves really vulnerable in their home districts. I feel bad for them but I think those are prime districts to flip now.

 

[Amy SF]

I believe the point of the second impeachment, beyond holding Trump accountable for his actions, is to make him pardon-proof. The Democrats don’t want him to be able to pardon himself or for anyone else to pardon him.

 

[KLS52]

I believe the point of the second impeachment, beyond holding Trump accountable for his actions, is to make him pardon-proof. The Democrats don’t want him to be able to pardon himself or for anyone else to pardon him.

But doesn’t he have to be convicted fir that to be the outcome ? I just don’t see that happening. Or are you saying that now that he’s been impeached twice he can’t pardon himself?