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At this point I just wonder how low the man can go. The absurdity just seems to have no bounds with this guy.
 
Jeremy said:
At this point I just wonder how low the man can go. The absurdity just seems to have no bounds with this guy.
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I heard somewhere (here, maybe, haha) that he never really wanted to be president and just started all this for attention...so maybe he's sabotaging himself now.
 
KLS52 said:
I heard somewhere (here, maybe, haha) that he never really wanted to be president and just started all this for attention...so maybe he's sabotaging himself now.
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I think that was me, that would at least make some sense to me, that he is just doing this for media attention and now needs to shoot himself in the foot as he doesn't actually want to be president. He is too ludicrous to be taken seriously at this point, surely?:eek::D

Sorry, I know I keep talking about Brexit on here, haha, but I just read this on a American forum. Some people here in the UK are also drawing comparisons between Trump and Brexit voters.

In a very, VERY similar vein that Ali and I were talking about yesterday: Brexit.

I did NOT see it coming. Polls saw it failing. Everyone I read online were pro-Remain. But the PROBLEM was, the people I was reading were the intelligent, highly educated people from urban areas. I understood their viewpoint, and OF COURSE it would be dumb for the UK to leave the EU.

Then guess what? They voted to leave. If you look at the demographics of how the vote went, it was overwhelmingly the older generation who voted to leave. Millennials overwhelmingly voted to stay. It was the people with less education who voted to leave. The people with more education voted to stay (as a rule). It was the rural people who voted to leave. The urban areas (e.g. London) voted to stay.

The people worried about immigration voted to leave--that was one of the main core issues/reasons for leaving.

And guess what? The older, less educated, rural, fearful/racist population outvoted the younger, more educated, urban population. Brexit passed.

Now guess who is voting for Trump? Old people. Millennials mostly hate him. Racist/fearful people wanting the wall/deporting Muslims. People with less education. People in rural areas.

We all tend to know the younger, more educated, urban people. And we don't understand how anyone could like Trump. But those people lost in the Brexit vote. And it seems like they might lose in the Trump vote. That'll be one major explanation to remember on November 8.

I was shocked at the Brexit vote. But prepare yourself for the Trump vote, because despite being across the pond, they're actually quite similar.
 
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I think what bothers me most is, the friends and family I consider to be smart, rational, decent people...how can they see him as presidential material? It's all too absurd. It's way beyond just wanting to vote strictly political party. How does one not cringe whenever the man opens his mouth? He's so offensive. IMO, of course. Sorry to anyone here that may be a supporter.

I don't love Hilary and I still don't know if I will go the route of voting for her to squash Trump or take Wolfie's stance and vote third party. Several people at work are advocating for that. I'm so confused so keep the conversation going...maybe it will help by the time November rolls around. Wahhh...I don't like this.


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KLS52 said:
I think what bothers me most is, the friends and family I consider to be smart, rational, decent people...how can they see him as presidential material? It's all too absurd. It's way beyond just wanting to vote strictly political party. How does one not cringe whenever the man opens his mouth? He's so offensive. IMO, of course. Sorry to anyone here that may be a supporter.
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I don't understand either. Even if you ignore all the awful and offensive things he says, he is still running against the most qualified person who would probably do a very decent job of being president. How could people want to take a risk with a person who is so unqualified?
 
I also think some people voted Leave because they didn't understand that THEIR VOTE ACTUALLY COUNTED. And there were no do-overs. And when you have enough votes for a particular side, that side actually WINS. I'm worried that it's the same kind of attitude with some Trump voters. It's sort of like they think they're voting for Mr. Trump for Best Grade School Teacher or Shall Our School Stop Participating in the International Spelling Bees? I don't think many voters fully understood or still understand the seriousness or repercussions of their vote.
 
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Random thought:

I find it pretty interesting how conservatives love to claim that the media is just soooo liberal. We never hear the end of Hilary Clinton's e-mail, while Bush's e-mail scandal in 2007 where the scenario was more less the same was barely covered. And all the hoobla about Benghazi when there were numerous similar scenarios during the Bush administration yet it was barely reported, the president was not blamed, much less the Secretary of State.

Just something to think about....
 
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Jeremy said:
Absolutely horrifying... But I've seen the "Just nuke them" sentiment among Republicans that don't know **** about **** before. It's like they don't grasp that such an action has dire consequences that stretch far beyond the simplest way of processing the concept.
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I remember Republican propaganda in the 80's that claimed that a nuclear war was winnable. I wonder if some of them permanently internalized it...
 
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If nothing else, it proves that Donald is truly an outsider that thinks like the rest of the trigger happy idiots.
 
KLS52 said:
I heard somewhere (here, maybe, haha) that he never really wanted to be president and just started all this for attention...so maybe he's sabotaging himself now.
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I have been wondering this for a while. Or if he just got into the race for fun to see how far he could advance while being as rude, crude and insulting as possible. Or who knows, maybe the Democrats paid him to make Hillary look good because she sure couldn't do that on her own.
 
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