News 2016 U.S. Presidential election - the highs and lows

If Donald Trump would stop talking, the media would stop reporting on the refuse that spills out of his filthy sewer. The idea that the media is unfair in their reporting of the candidate caked in Cheetos dust is utter nonsense.

For example, People magazine did a cover story of Trump and his family just a few months after he announced his candidacy and claimed that Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers.

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A month later, NBC allowed Trump to host Saturday Night Live.

A few weeks ago Trump was on the Tonight Show.


How cute.

And then on Fox News, specifically during Fox & Friends and Hannity, you'll regularly see the hosts help spread Trump's message, virtually unfiltered.
 
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Amy SF said:
Yes. Hillary Clinton. No proof whatsoever of any wrongdoing in her charities. No proof with Benghazi, either. Has never tried to grope or rape anyone. Has never tried pay-for-play.

Yes, she had pneumonia on the campaign trail, but SHE RECOVERED FROM IT. She went to Ground Zero DESPITE feeling ill because she wanted to pay her respects. She's not freaking DYING.

Try something other than ridiculous Republican talking points to support a candidate, who, by the way, is collapsing in the polls and won't get to be the "spoiler" that he hoped to be. Same thing with Jill Stein.
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Gary Johnson supporters have known all along his chances of winning are slim. Too many people scared of something different in this country so they keep voting blue or red, just as they've always done, even when they're not really fond of their party's candidate. But the higher the percentage of popular vote he ends up with, the better for the libertarians in 2020, 2024 and beyond. That's what I'm concerned with now. Future elections. So maybe a libertarian candidate will be able to get elected and can fix the mess the country will be in after a Hillary Clinton presidency.

ETA: If you (collective you) are voting for HC because you like her, then I am not saying you are voting scared. But IRL the vast majority of people I know that tell me they are voting HC are doing it only because they don't want Trump to win. She will win simply because she's not Donald Trump. And with the way he's been acting lately, I wonder if he wasn't in on that plan all along, because he is doing everything he can to not win every time he opens his mouth.
 
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I've kind of wondered if they weren't in on a plan together to get Hillary elected as well. I think it was probably her idea to make the racists comments and to build a wall, and I'm willing to bet money that it was his idea to have all those women come forward and claim he sexually assaulted him, to show his sexual prowess. I wonder whose idea the twitter rants are? They are a nice touch. ;)
 
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Moll Flanders said:
Trump seemed to welcome the opportunity to fight the vice-president. “Did you see where Biden wants to take me behind a barn? Me. He wants it. I’d love that,” the Republican nominee said with relish.
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Like every bully, he is pretending that he would be up for it.
My money would be on Mr. Biden, however....
 
Moll Flanders said:
Donald Trump implies he would be willing to fight vice-president behind a barn | US news | The Guardian
Trump seemed to welcome the opportunity to fight the vice-president. “Did you see where Biden wants to take me behind a barn? Me. He wants it. I’d love that,” the Republican nominee said with relish.

Trump added: “He wants to bring me to the back of the barn? Oooooooooh. Some things in life you could really love doing.”

:lol: Lol, is it just me or does that sound sexual? :rofl:
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I don't think so. He's such responding to a statement that is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

This presidential race will go down as the worst in modern history.
 
Calliegirl said:
I've kind of wondered if they weren't in on a plan together to get Hillary elected as well. I think it was probably her idea to make the racists comments and to build a wall, and I'm willing to bet money that it was his idea to have all those women come forward and claim he sexually assaulted him, to show his sexual prowess. I wonder whose idea the twitter rants are? They are a nice touch. ;)
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Yea it would seem that he is intentionally trying to lose. But why would he do it? He's severely damaging his brand, and a lot of his income comes from licensing his name.

Any arrangement he would make with Hillary would have to compensate him in some way to make up for the damaged brand image.

Maybe they'll funnel some money to him via the Clinton Foundation....:devil:
 
beancounter said:
Yea it would seem that he is intentionally trying to lose. But why would he do it? He's severely damaging his brand, and a lot of his income comes from licensing his name.

Any arrangement he would make with Hillary would have to compensate him in some way to make up for the damaged brand image.

Maybe they'll funnel some money to him via the Clinton Foundation....:devil:
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He is losing the race. However, I don't see a reason for him to do this intentionally. He is also self funding the campagne with only 25 % of the money coming from donors.

I wonder why anyone would self fund a presidential campagne ? I'm awaiting for all the snide remarks……….:rolleyes:
 
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Wolfie said:
But the higher the percentage of popular vote he ends up with, the better for the libertarians in 2020, 2024 and beyond.
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I admire your optimism. That is what I told myself when I voted for Ralph Nader 16 long years ago. A protest vote is a protest vote - if it makes you feel best, by all means do it. But IMHO the ripple effect will be akin to throwing a pebble into the ocean.

Edit: I know Ralph was Green Party, btw - I am just using that example as a reference to any third party candidate.

Edit #2: My protest vote in 2000 felt good for about an hour. My optimism for a third party was crushed as post election two-party politics got under way as usual and all the third party momentum was buried by the political quagmires that followed in no small part as a result of the elected president's agenda. Yeah! High fives. :(
 
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Having had to take part in a number of them where I work, I look at this election as a job interview in a very real sense. The below is in reference to hiring project managers:

Major considerations: Real-world experience. Background in the field. Understanding of the job and what it entails. A demonstration of the abilities the job will require. Confidence. Vision. Exceptional communication abilities. (Verbal and written.) Cool under pressure. Ability to handle the stress of the job and still perform. New ideas. Ability to leverage established relationships. Passion. Aligned values. Ability to inspire others. Multi-tasking. Ability to adjust to changing environment. Ability to work with all kinds of people of varied backgrounds and job descriptions. The ability to manage and influence people that they have no direct authority over.

The rest are all optional niceties. I don't need to be friends with this person, I'm not going to be spending any amount of time outside of work with them, so they don't need to be someone I would have a beer with. In fact the less I have to deal with them, the better. It means they are doing their job and I don't have to get into the weeds with them - I have my own job to do, I don't want to be spending time doing theirs or having to worry about how their projects are going. I don't need to love them - I just need to know they are the best choice of the candidates I have to choose from.

I think you can do a pretty good comparison analysis with the election looking at it like this. So many people I know have this 'Well I have to hold my nose to vote for x' and 'I'm voting against x, not for x.' I don't quite get it. I voted for Obama. Do I agree with all his policies? No. Has he done much to forward animal rights? No. I could go on and on about the things he didn't do that I would have liked him to do and the things he did do that directly conflict with my views. Would I still vote for him if I had to go back in time? Yes. He is still the best candidate. My personal opinion of him doesn't matter. Of those on the ballot - he was the best candidate. You don't have to be in love with them to vote for them. The United States government is full of moving parts - the presidency is just one of them. I agree a lot needs to be changed. Changes come about by electing great leaders. It's quite possible that neither of the 2 candidates is a good leader at all. Nobody knows what history will tell us until we're looking back several years down the road. But I'm going to vote for who I think the best candidate is, because we as a people have narrowed the available choices down to these two.
 
Well my attempt at humor fell flat on it's face. :p

No, I don't actually think they are working together. I was trying to point out how absurd the conspiracy theory going around that they are working together is. :rolleyes:
 
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shyvas said:
He is losing the race. However, I don't see a reason for him to do this intentionally. He is also self funding the campagne with only 25 % of the money coming from donors.

I wonder why anyone would self fund a presidential campagne ? I'm awaiting for all the snide remarks……….:rolleyes:
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No snide remarks, just links to show it isn't true. As mentioned in one of the articles, he stated he may even be making money on the election, and there's a good chance it's true. He loaned his campaign the funding which means he can pay himself back with the donations, plus he's paying himself for use of his hotels and other amenities, as well as giving himself a paycheck.

From the Vanity Fair article...

Compared to his Democratic rival and Republican predecessors, Donald Trump is running a bargain-basement presidential campaign. Last month, the G.O.P. nominee spent just $18.5 million—less than half as much as Hillary Clinton. But since Trump transitioned from self-funding to relying on donors to get him to the White House, his campaign spending has surged—particularly when the money is going to the billionaire’s own businesses.

In March, when Trump was still paying for his presidential run mostly out of his own pocket, his campaign spent $35,458 to rent its headquarters in Trump Tower. Last month, however, that figure surged to $169,758, even as the number of paid campaign employees and staff dropped from 197 to 172 over the same period, the Huffington Post reports. The sharp increase in campaign spending appears to correspond to a large infusion in cash from outside donors. According to the Huffington Post, the amount Trump Tower has charged the campaign for rent has steadily increased since May, the same month that Trump clinched the nomination and inked a deal with the Republican National Committee to fund his campaign. At the end of May the campaign doled out $72,800, followed by $110,684 in June, and $169,758 in July.

Trump Tower isn’t the only Trump property to have benefited. Over the same period, the Huffington Post reports a number of Trump’s namesake golf courses and restaurants have earned a total of $260,000, citing F.E.C. records. In July alone, the campaign spent $495,000 on Trump’s air travel, which is operated by a company that he owns. The Washington Post estimated that the Trump clan has pocketed $7.7 million as a result of the campaign’s expenditures...
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