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I like that the article pointed out that ultra-processed foods don't make up the bulk of a typical vegan's diet. I mean, omnivores have dead flesh and dairy multiple times a day, while someone like me has a Beyond burger maybe once every couple of weeks. Not that I'm supporting ultra-processed anything, but the implication (that probably comes from dead flesh producers) that vegans are more unhealthy because of something like a Beyond burger is lame (IMHO).
 
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The concept that I liked was that you don't have to an existing produce - like hamburger of chicken nuggets - but make something new, original, unique. Although they are still making sausages - that is just the shape. Hopefully the flavor is something new.

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I like that the article pointed out that ultra-processed foods don't make up the bulk of a typical vegan's diet.
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yes I agree with that in general but just thinking about me as being typical....
I do have things like nuggets, patties, sausages only about once a week, I do consume what I think is called ultra processed food.
Aren't most plant milks and many breakfast cereals and bread considered ultra processed now. And I have those every day.
 
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While Beyond burgers and sausages are highly processed, so are the meat versions. As for replicating meat--where is the replication? Do they taste like cooked flesh? No, they taste like the seasoning, their texture is that of wheat, soy and other plant foods
When stem cell meats become available I will refer to them as replicants, but for now, the plant burgers and sausages are simply using the same seasoning and smoking techniques they use with beef, chickens and pig bases
Geez, people lost their minds when they used turkey for bacon and ham, now plants 🙄

If you want to speak about a healthy diet, why not specify it as wfpb, and leave the word vegan to mean "no animal products"
Gimme that bag of kettle chips, and a diet coke....

I get ticked off about people claiming that in order to be healthy as a vegan you need to log in some website to monitor your daily diet, and really watch how much of everything you eat. While it is true that wfpb is by far the superior diet to prevent and even reverse diseases. just knowing something about nutrition and quitting animals is no worse than the typical diet of an omnivore (with B12, which omnis usually need too...)
The whole "a vegan diet is quite possible with careful meal planning...) 🙄 . Sure if you don't find out how bad your old diet was
 
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Vegans' intake of protein and essential amino acids is adequate​

but ultra-processed products are also needed: Study​


their findings show that, on average, the participants consumed the recommended amount of proteins and essential amino acids, and that their diet consisted largely of unprocessed and minimally processed foods. However, participants who consumed proportionally lower levels of industrialized products such as protein supplements and textured soy protein were more likely to exhibit inadequate protein intake, suggesting a significant reliance on nutrients from ultra-processed proteins for this population.​
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"Our results contradict the stigma that a vegan diet can't provide the amount of protein and essential amino acids a person needs, and show that a vegan diet can be nutritionally adequate. Moreover, the vegans included in the study consumed ultra-processed products less than the general population," said Hamilton Roschel, last author of the article and head of the Applied Physiology and Nutrition Research Group at FM-USP's Center for Lifestyle Medicine.​


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Vegans' intake of protein and essential amino acids is adequate but ultra-processed products are also needed: Study

In an article published in JAMA Network Open, researchers at the University of São Paulo's Medical School (FM-USP) report on a study involving 774 men and women who followed a vegan diet in Brazil.
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Lou said:

Vegans' intake of protein and essential amino acids is adequate​

but ultra-processed products are also needed: Study​


their findings show that, on average, the participants consumed the recommended amount of proteins and essential amino acids, and that their diet consisted largely of unprocessed and minimally processed foods. However, participants who consumed proportionally lower levels of industrialized products such as protein supplements and textured soy protein were more likely to exhibit inadequate protein intake, suggesting a significant reliance on nutrients from ultra-processed proteins for this population.​
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"Our results contradict the stigma that a vegan diet can't provide the amount of protein and essential amino acids a person needs, and show that a vegan diet can be nutritionally adequate. Moreover, the vegans included in the study consumed ultra-processed products less than the general population," said Hamilton Roschel, last author of the article and head of the Applied Physiology and Nutrition Research Group at FM-USP's Center for Lifestyle Medicine.​


medicalxpress.com

Vegans' intake of protein and essential amino acids is adequate but ultra-processed products are also needed: Study

In an article published in JAMA Network Open, researchers at the University of São Paulo's Medical School (FM-USP) report on a study involving 774 men and women who followed a vegan diet in Brazil.
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I didn't spend much time reading that, but it seems quite biased and lacking in control. Why TSP when soy beans are a complete protein by themselves, with their fermented versions even better?
I suppose they could have studied just random folks rather than those actually eating wfpb, but it still seems quite messed up
How about some research on omnivore diets and all they lack?
 
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