Rampant Racism in America

I've been reading some of the writings of William Jelani Cobb, a black man who is a professor of journalism at Columbia's School of Journalism. Since I am not a black person, I was quite unfamiliar with much of the material he ws writing about.

Cobb believes that a substantial amount (by no means all nor even a majority) of the hatred experienced by black people in American society is due to the misogyny directed against black women by black men. As an example, he cites Nelly's song/music video "Tip Drill." A "tip drill" (a term I had never heard of before) is a woman with a plain or unattractive face but with a beautiful, sexy body--what white people might call a "butter-face" ("but-her-face").

Nelly's video (released around 2000) caused a furor and caused him to be named misogynist of the month, etc. By the way, all the women shown in the video looked quite attractive to me, including their faces.

I am going to try to put the URL within spoiler tags, and some of you may find it quite offensive. It includes a scene of Nelly "swiping" his credit card between a woman's butt-cheeks, whereupon she immediately starts "twerking" or shaking her butt.


I think that black women are the black people of black people (that is, they face the most bigotry of all). There is at least a degree of fear in white people's bigotry toward black men, while black women are completely objectified.

However, the hatred experienced by black people in American society predates the kind of misogyny described by Cobb, so I don't find his argument compelling.
 
I've been reading some of the writings of William Jelani Cobb, a black man who is a professor of journalism at Columbia's School of Journalism. Since I am not a black person, I was quite unfamiliar with much of the material he ws writing about.

Cobb believes that a substantial amount (by no means all nor even a majority) of the hatred experienced by black people in American society is due to the misogyny directed against black women by black men. As an example, he cites Nelly's song/music video "Tip Drill." A "tip drill" (a term I had never heard of before) is a woman with a plain or unattractive face but with a beautiful, sexy body--what white people might call a "butter-face" ("but-her-face").

Nelly's video (released around 2000) caused a furor and caused him to be named misogynist of the month, etc. By the way, all the women shown in the video looked quite attractive to me, including their faces.

I am going to try to put the URL within spoiler tags, and some of you may find it quite offensive. It includes a scene of Nelly "swiping" his credit card between a woman's butt-cheeks, whereupon she immediately starts "twerking" or shaking her butt.


Not that I entirely disagree with you - misogyny is a huge component of any community, and the black community treats black women horribly - but I'm struck with two conflicting thoughts:
  1. Seeing a white person talk about this in this way is absolutely bonkers, and
  2. Please never stop talking about things the way you talk about things
 
And I know this is about GB, not the US, but:
UKIP has suspended the girlfriend of party leader Henry Bolton after she apparently made racist remarks about Prince Harry's fiancee Meghan Markle.

The Mail on Sunday has published a series of messages sent by Jo Marney.

In them, the 25-year-old model said Ms Markle would "taint" the Royal Family, that she had a "tiny brain" and that black people were ugly.

Ms Marney apologised and said her messages had been taken out of context. Mr Bolton did not want to comment.

The Mail on Sunday said Ms Marney sent the messages three weeks before her relationship with Mr Bolton started.

When a reply to one of her messages suggested her comments were racist, she added "so what?" and said she did not want other races invading her culture.[/QUOTE]

 
Cobb believes that a substantial amount (by no means all nor even a majority) of the hatred experienced by black people in American society is due to the misogyny directed against black women by black men.

Sure, because white men are not at all misogynistic to women of any colour, so white people should be able to rightfully call out men of other colours for their evildoings /* Sarcasm off*/

(Sorry if I reduce this theory to a very simplified thought without having even read it, but it strikes me as ... a bit dishonest)

Anyway ... whatever that theory, I guess Dump's election (thanks to, among others, white women's votes) finally lays it to rest ... misogynism being the one thing where he can rightfully claim to be the best there ever was at anything...
 
I think that black women are the black people of black people (that is, they face the most bigotry of all).

The title of this very good article is worded more strongly, but says essentially the same thing...

Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People

Damon Young said:
But when black women share that we pose the same existential and literal danger to them that whiteness does to us; and when black women ask us to give them the benefit of the doubt about street harassment and sexual assault and other forms of harassment and violence we might not personally witness; and when black women tell us that allowing our cousins and brothers and co-workers and niggas to use misogynistic language propagates that culture of danger; and when black women admit how scary it can be to get followed and approached by a man while waiting for a bus or walking home from work; and when black women articulate how hurtful it is for our reactions to domestic abuse and their rapes and murders to be “what women need to do differently to prevent this from happening to them” instead of “what we (men) need to do differently to prevent us from doing this to them,” their words are met with resistance and outright pushback. After demanding from white people that we’re listened to and believed and that our livelihoods are considered, our ears shut off and hearts shut down when black women are pleading with us.


 
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