What do people do if they want to become vegan and have very busy lives and don't have time to cook? I just signed up for some Purple Carrot boxes. They contain all the stuff for vegan meals, premeasured, but it's over $70 for 3 meals for two people and you still have to cook the stuff and wash all the dishes. I'm thinking at least I'll get an idea what to buy and maybe figure out some very quick ways to prepare meals. I'm just not a cook. I like to throw a sandwich together and be done with it. I did order some of that Huel stuff - it's vegan meal substitute shakes. I think some of the vegan activists would make much better use of their time coming up with vegan fast food and inexpensive easy meal plans than they do being activists. They'd save a lot more animals if they would help non-vegans learn to eat vegan rather than pitching guilt trips and letting minks loose in the woods. Seriously. My son is a vegan activist. He'd save more animals making me some freakin food than he does going online and trying to make people feel guilty! And then there's the organic garden. The bugs. I was out there removing caterpillars from my brocolli and stink bugs and their eggs from my squash the other day. I killed hundreds of bugs. I had to take hundreds of lives to grow organic vegetables. None of those bugs would have even been born if I didn't have a garden. Is that good or bad? The cows wouldn't be born if we didn't raise them... I don't eat hundreds of cows per day. I'm killing more animals growing a garden than eating meat! How many bugs were killed for my Purple Carrot meals and Huel? I bet chemical agriculture kills less bugs than organic agriculture........because the chemicals keep the bugs away and keep the eggs from hatching so there are less bugs to kill...... bugs ARE every bit as sentient as cows and pigs and fish and birds, who I know are every bit as sentient as us.....and that makes me wonder. I mean....spiders! What's more amazing than spiders? I LOVE spiders. And ants - I feel bad every time I kill an ant. They have whole entire complex societies, and graveyards and everything and when I dig in my garden sometimes I disturb their communities. Of course, when cows are walking in their fields they probably step on ants...so.... And then there are my horses. My horses LOVE me and I love them. They enjoy going for long rides through the woods. I put their manure in my garden. My son is vegan and he says having horses is animal exploitation and so is manure in the garden. They certainly don't seem exploited to me. They have 10 acres and all they can eat, awesome vet care, brushing and grooming, hoof care, snuggles, carrots, watermelon, and they go on fun trips that they very clearly enjoy. They come running when they see me coming. But that's different than killing animals to eat. I just.....I've tried to go vegan before and it's so hard and then I think it's pointless because I'm going to be killing animals no matter what I do. Just venting. I really don't want to contribute to suffering.....it seems impossible not to.....but my vegan son won't let my grandbabies visit me so I guess if I go vegan I'll be reducing MY suffering. Right? I searched out this forum in the hopes that there are others with the same questions and dilemmas.....maybe transitioning but thinking "does it really make a difference?"