Health Issues The Everything Covid 19 Thread

[Mischief]

You do quite well at supplementing statements not made in order to further the mocking you do. Also, take it to an appropriate thread - you started the FE slur/bait here.

You're not proud to believe in a flat Earth? You surprise me. After all, it's further proof that you're an independent thinker, not a "sheeple" like the rest of us.

But yes, Luis, read Nekodaiden in his very own words.

 

[Nekodaiden]

OK, so there is a conspiracy involving all doctors who are issuing death certificates to over-report on COVID-19 because, well, just because!!!

Nope, but doctors are being fired, or threatened with being fired for speaking to the press. However, some are speaking out anyway. There is a financial motive involved in pressuring doctors though...and when I have time later, I'll highlight it.

The motivation individual hospitals may have, as part of unwritten policy, is simple to imagine during pandemics.

A) Pandemics are not budgeted for by hospitals.

In order to serve the needs of the community and continue to pay it's expenses, hospitals rely on a combination
of grants and fees for their services. During pandemics, however, the need for such services are dwarfed by the
greater need of serving pandemic sufferers. Therefore, lots of normal services, including elective surgeries,
doctor appointments, tests, scans etc can and are postponed to meet either the need or the anticipated need.

During a pandemic where there is also a lock down, further services that normally arise from human activity are
diminished. With public areas largely closed and more people staying at home, there is less violence erupting from
public disputes, brawls, accidents etc to deal with. Weekends where people drink and socialize in my area frequently
results in ER's having patients just from actions associated with this activity.


All this results in lack of income resulting in cash strapped hospitals over time.


B) Where there is hype, there is money. Besides the "pandemic bonds" issued by the World Bank in 2017 (the payout of which
relies on numbers of, and type of, pandemic, and that mature this year), there is also pressure upon governments to "help out" hospitals that need medical
supplies, meet payroll and other financial obligation needs, possibly extra staff, etc to deal with the pandemic. Remember the
pandemic is not planned for nor budgeted for by individual hospitals that have to carry the burden of either pandemic patients
or lack of regular income due to preparations and making room for pandemic patients that may not even manifest.

If, in fact, the pandemic is over-hyped, the hospitals are empty or nearly empty and losing massive amounts of income every day,
where does that leave them? For some it leaves them with an incentive to perpetuate the hype in reporting on death certificates
where it's possible to reasonably get away with it - that which can guarantee them some kind of payout - either at the National
or international level or both.

However, there are doctors with conscience that are speaking out that the thing they are dealing with (where it exists) is not a virus. I linked one
earlier in this thread. There are also statesmen who are saying covid-19 is being applied to death certificates on what amounts to
basically guesswork, or a "maybe" X patient with X terminal disease had covid-19, and therefore died of it. Have a cough/fever, maybe
the flu? Good enough for a symptomatic diagnosis, and good enough to put on death certificates if you do die. I've also shown the
document by the CDC that actually encourages this behavior. There is evidence that the so called "pandemic" is actually leaving hospitals
in many areas empty or nearly empty, with staging areas and extra tents set up to deal with it that are empty - I have provided video in this thread to show that.
Or you could youtube search (while they haven't targeted those videos yet) with the search term "film your hospital" and look for individual's
findings.


Then, lastly, there are the real cases. Of? A virus? Depends on who you believe. However, I can say that there ARE doctors out there reporting
that it is very akin to something like altitude sickness or in general a lack of adequate oxygen uptake (that is to say, where 02 is available,
but not being taken up by patients, and not because of respiratory failure). This is unusual and may point again to 5G wireless, when it is used
at the 60Ghz frequency, which disrupts oxygen metabolism. It actually lowers hemoglobin. This you could know by reading the CIA declassified
document I linked in the Beancounter's "conspiracies should not be allowed" thread which describes how millimeter waves do this (and 60Ghz is
a millimeter wave). Or by the videos of Dana Ashlie that focuses on this aspect (main ones now removed from youtube but up at brighteon.com).

Meanwhile, the greater, and broader plans to implement agendas continues forth. Economies are virtually shut down. Small businesses collapse. People are basically in a prison of their homes, and if allowed to leave, only for essentials and wearing masks. The advice to wash one's hands frequently leads to hightened anxiety - it's basically acknowledging that the danger could be everywhere. This is hell. When can we go outside/socialize again? When do we not need to social distance and continually wash our hands and not be afraid all the time? Well, according to Bill Gates, it's when we are all vaccinated.

But, it's not going to be the average shot, this one is going to be connected to biometric agendas and line up with ID2020 and Agenda2030, in cooperation with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Microsoft, Gavi, Rockefellar foundation (by the way, this foundation founded the WHO) and others.

 

[Nekodaiden]

You're not proud to believe in a flat Earth? You surprise me. After all, it's further proof that you're an independent thinker, not a "sheeple" like the rest of us.

But yes, Luis, read Nekodaiden in his very own words.

I said I don't believe the sun is the only light source for daylight. I didn't say there were multiple suns or anything of that nature. You're living up to the "Mischief" name by spreading lies. If you insist on bringing statements up in another thread up that really don't relate to the topic, take it to that thread.

 

[Mischief]

I said I don't believe the sun is the only light source for daylight. I didn't say there were multiple suns or anything of that nature. You're living up to the "Mischief" name by spreading lies. If you insist on bringing statements up in another thread up that really don't relate to the topic, take it to that thread.

You're funny.

 

[Freesia]

There are so many questions to be asked about everything which I could ask, which go unanswered, which don't appear to have an available answer.

But one question I am asking right now is, how am I going to get the bran for my Bircher muesli? This is the most pressing thing. I guess by this time tomorrow I will have answered this question one way or another.

 

[Mischief]

An Ohio man who actively downplayed Covid 19 as "a political ploy" on social media has now died of it. Google News

 

[shyvas]

Some useful information for people in the UK:

Coronavirus travel rights

We've the latest on the testing and self-isolation rules for travellers visiting popular destinations abroad, plus full refund and insurance rights for overseas and UK travel.

www.moneysavingexpert.com

 

[shyvas]

Air pollution linked to raised Covid-19 death risk

The World Health Organization warns high air pollution could be a risk factor for severe Covid-19 cases.

www.bbc.com

 

[shyvas]

Despite the gloom, it's amazing that busy medical staff find the time to make someone's day:

In a touching moment caught on camera, dozens of staff lined the corridors to wish Ms Borja
well including two doctors who played her favourite music on piano and violin, after a month-long admission with coronavirus.

Watch emotional moment A&E nurse is discharged following Covid-19 recovery | Nursing Times

 

[Raven]

I've always washed my hands a lot (as I have OCD) and also from having all my pets so it doesn't feel like I'm even washing my hands more often. I've always washed my hands after touching parcels from outside too as I always thought that there could be rat urine on the box if it had been sitting in a warehouse!

One thing I'm going to keep doing is buying soap instead of buying shower gel/bath foam. We used to get through a bottle of shower gel a week between the two of us before, which is ridiculous.

I think I’m spending more on groceries alone lol, but that’s because I’m stockpiling. I think I’m good now for awhile. It’s not that want to stockpile. It’s more that if I finally get a time slot for delivery or pickup I feel like I need to take advantage. I’m concerned that if I just wait and use up what I have, I won’t get a time slot when I really need it.

I am definitely going to declutter my home after this and make space for bags of cat litter in the cupboard just in case. That is a really annoying thing to run low on.

 

[Val]

I've always washed my hands a lot (as I have OCD) and also from having all my pets so it doesn't feel like I'm even washing my hands more often. I've always washed my hands after touching parcels from outside too as I always thought that there could be rat urine on the box if it had been sitting in a warehouse!

One thing I'm going to keep doing is buying soap instead of buying shower gel/bath foam. We used to get through a bottle of shower gel a week between the two of us before, which is ridiculous.



I am definitely going to declutter my home after this and make space for bags of cat litter in the cupboard just in case. That is a really annoying thing to run low on.

I've had OCD since i was 10 (a fear of malicious bacteriae). Sometimes it seemed to me that there were no safe places left. It has got a little better with time... but now i suspect it's back (well, there are literally no safe places anymore).

 

[shyvas]

What' wrong with these people? We really can live without them during this pandemic.

Coronavirus: Man who claimed he had COVID-19 and spat at police officers is jailed for six months

Brandon Wallace, 21, spat at two officers while being arrested for domestic assault in Barking, east London, police said.

news.sky.com

 

[Raven]

I've had OCD since i was 10 (a fear of malicious bacteriae). Sometimes it seemed to me that there were no safe places left. It has got a little better with time... but now i suspect it's back (well, there are literally no safe places anymore).

Yes, I was saying recently to a therapist I know recently that this must be an especially bad time for people who suffer with health OCD.

 

[Raven]

What' wrong with these people? We really can live without them during this pandemic.

Coronavirus: Man who claimed he had COVID-19 and spat at police officers is jailed for six months

Brandon Wallace, 21, spat at two officers while being arrested for domestic assault in Barking, east London, police said.

news.sky.com

I just checked the news for the first time today and saw a man went up to a care worker and licked her face!

 

[KLS52]

Yes, there are some disturbed souls out there. Sad, really.

 

[shyvas]

Yes, there are some disturbed souls out there. Sad, really.

Disgusting. I wonder how he'll be treated if he calls 999 one day in the event of an emergency?

 

[Val]

I haven't posted about the situation over here for quite some time. I'm just depressed, but i'm not getting surprised anymore. It's getting worse and worse day by day. I lost track of new cases in SPb, and SPb area. I just have been writing down the numbers of new cases in the country in general. (I know, these are pretty creepy statistics, but i'm tracking it for some reason,- maybe because when it gets fewer in the number of cases, it calms me down a little. Still ****ing scary).
Behold - new cases in our country (there's nothing to be proud of, really):
Apr.9th - 1459
Apr.10th - 1786
Apr.11th - 1667
Apr.12th - 2186
Apr.13th - 2558
Apr.14th - 2774
Apr.15th - 3388
Apr.16th - 3448
Apr.17th - 4070
Apr.18th - 4785
Apr.19th - 6060
Apr.20th - 4268
Apr.21st - 5642
Apr.22nd - 5236
...As you can see, everything is bad. There are 57999 infected for today in total, and only 4420 of them have fully recovered. 513 died. 2267 contaminated in SPb, - 14 died. In SPb area - 537 contaminated, no one died. Moscow keeps its infamous leadership: 31981 - infected for today, 261 - dead. Moscow area: 6590 - infected, 56 - dead.
Some another outrageous story occured in a remore suburb of SPb (Novosergiyevka). There is a big hostel in that place. Migrants from central Asia live there (they come here with working visa, in order to work at building sites, like new block houses, hotels, sports complexes, shopping malls, etc.). They live in horrible conditions in pathetic hostels with no comfort, and they rarely get any medical and other help. When i "was attending" Ribbon mall, i used to see migrants at checkouts (those who stay in Kolpino). They always buy gigantic sacks of greasy and junk food for their whole company that works at the building site located on Onega avenue. ...So the selfish owner of that hostel in Novosergiyevka not only didn't call for help,- he had hidden the fact that a few of migrants were sick, so all the dwellers of this hostel were contaminated. Eventually, there were so many of them, that there was no sense in taking them to hospitals (moreover, the citizens need these hospitals too),- and a so-called "field hospital" was established right in the walls of the hostel and next to it. Now this greedy owner will go to jail for hiding the facts of covid and not providing help to his residents, ...but what's the use of it now??
Another story (that stinks) occured in Krasnoyarsk city (where Elijah's mother lives, and now she's scared and she's sitting at home). 90 people who had attended an eye clinic, were contaminated (including the personnel). They are still struggling to find a "zero patient". What a cr@p...

 

[KLS52]

My grandkids chalked another message, this time for the delivery people.

 

[KLS52]

Then after a UPS driver delivered a package and saw the message, he came back and did this! How cute!

 

[Val]

Then after a UPS driver delivered a package and saw the message, he came back and did this! How cute!

I guess, delivery people need some heartwarming words time after time too. You and your grandkids did a great job!