Well spoken. My grandmother wanted to go to school to become a teacher, but her own grandmother (her legal guardian) would not let her do it because getting married and having kids is the thing to do. It's scary to think how that attitude is not that far in the past.
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Well spoken. My grandmother wanted to go to school to become a teacher, but her own grandmother (her legal guardian) would not let her do it because getting married and having kids is the thing to do. It's scary to think how that attitude is not that far in the past.
I'm not a fan of the rebuttal. It smacks of condescension. She also talks about herself way too much. Good luck getting the other side to react positively to that. And I say that as someone who supports the women's marches.
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I thought the rebuttal was good and a good argument but that womans language is a bit vulgar and made me cringe (sorry) would have been a lot better without it. If I was a "college-educated, professional mom" like her I would not want my kids reading that, that is for sure.
a shame because I thought it was a good post apart from that.
a shame because I thought it was a good post apart from that.
Eh. I'm not a huge fan of arguments with the person talking about themselves so much. Just keep the rebuttals factual and succinct. She had some good points, but you need to read through a lot of fluff to get to it. Maybe it just annoys me because even though I'm privileged, I live paycheck to paycheck and really don't care to hear about how wonderful and lucky her own life is. I mean that's great for her, but I have no desire to hear all about it.
I think we need a crying emoji rating.
There ya go.I feel like I should put together a scrap book for my futures kids (if I have any) to read some day. This is history happening. Crazy history.
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That might not be a bad idea, because I think we can be sure that history textbooks will be supplying "alternative facts."
I feel like I should put together a scrap book for my futures kids (if I have any) to read some day. This is history happening. Crazy history.
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I could not get the video to play properly. Is there a transcript of his remarks somewhere? Or a summary?
Maybe the admin could add it to the ratings emoji that appear at the bottom of each post? I have a feeling that we're going to have a need for it.
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By the way, Jerry can buy a "tape" to prevent frozen pipes at places like Home Depot. It plugs in to an electric socket, it has its own thermostat, and is basically a flat rubberized thing with an electric cord inside the rubber. The rubber wraps around the pipe. When the room temperature goes down almost to freezing, say 35 degrees, the electricity flows through the tape, thus heating the pipe and keeping it from freezing.
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I know, we have that here. He's got insulating tape & a space heater in his basement laundry room for when the temp dips too low.... Available electrical outlets (that won't blow a breaker) are at a premium. For instance, if the heater in the basement is on, no one can use the toaster oven in the kitchen (same grid)... and no using the toaster oven & the microwave at the same time.
I could not find another version of the video. I embedded the code here:
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I'll keep looking, since original video is nearly 40 minutes....
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Finally, I agree. This is the point I've been trying to make and maybe I wasn't being clear. I don't agree with people who voted for Brexit, or voted for Trump, but I'm trying to see their side. I'm not defending them, I'm trying to understand a different viewpoint to my own views.
ETA - what Ledboots said about people on here being out of touch applies to me too. I have no idea why I am so clueless about working-class people and what they think. I spent my teen years living with my mother when she was a single parent on benefits and I was "poor" and got free school meals etc... Somewhere along the line since then, I have lost touch with what some (not all) working-class people think.
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I think the out-of-touch thing goes both ways. I've lived almost all my life in the midst of people who this year voted for DT, and their inability to acknowledge facts that don't conform to their worldview is pretty astounding. (The young man who is the subject of the Mother Jones article I cited above is a prime example of many people I have known throughout my life.)
OTOH, people on the left can be equally ignorant in their own right.
OTOH, people on the left can be equally ignorant in their own right.
I don't even know what social class I belong to anymore. I grew up in a middle class home, and my parents are well off (not rich, but doing well), and I'm college/university educated, yet I've been struggling to support myself for years. I've gone without health care due to costs (we don't get free dental health checks here anymore or free eye exams), and yeah basically just am forced to be frugal all the time. So I don't even know where that puts me. lol.
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