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California's primary isn't until June. I think that's far too late for such an important state, and I know others agree with me, and it was changed to February several years ago, but only for that year. I wish it would be changed to February permanently.
 
I always tell my family and friends, if you didn't vote, you can't complain about the election results.
 
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Calliegirl said:
I always tell my family and friends, if you didn't vote, you can't complain about the election results.
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Can't see the sense in voting just for the sake of voting . At times I am amazed at the election results , but you are correct, not much sense complaining . Plus some people get so uptight over elections, projecting their reasoning on others . I just can't handle it , some are almost griped in paranoia that this party will win or lose .

So, by staying out of it, allows you to go into a rather nice space mentally .

Thankfully , I see good policies in most of the parties that stand .

Still, in saying that, I think democracy is a resemble form of government , at least it lets the people dump the government if they get out of hand .

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blues said:
Can't see the sense in voting just for the sake of voting .
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Are there no parties available for election in your country that you can identify with more than others?

I also have been voting in every election I was able to participate in during the last 20 years (although not even living in my home country any longer), although the party I have been voting for (Green) does not really have a chance to take over government responsibility. However, it hopefully makes their opposition efforts stronger and can help to change public opinion at some point in time.
 
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Are there no parties available for election in your country that you can identify with more than others?
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Well Andy I don't want to push the thread of topic, this is about US Republican . Yes I have in the past identify with some parties more than others .

Seem to be more supportive of policy than specific political party/ideology .

Plus our system is different to yours , we would refer to yours as "first past the post " where ours is, because of changes some years back, means in most elections , we have "coalition " governments , made up of several parties .

You don't really know which political parties are in power, until sometimes well after election night .
 
blues said:
Can't see the sense in voting just for the sake of voting . At times I am amazed at the election results , but you are correct, not much sense complaining . Plus some people get so uptight over elections, projecting their reasoning on others . I just can't handle it , some are almost griped in paranoia that this party will win or lose .

So, by staying out of it, allows you to go into a rather nice space mentally .

Thankfully , I see good policies in most of the parties that stand .

Still, in saying that, I think democracy is a resemble form of government , at least it lets the people dump the government if they get out of hand .

:)
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That's very sensible.
 
I've known a lot of young people who don't vote, but yet they seem to be quite politically aware. I think older people generally turn out to vote more.

I have to admit I have been laughing at some of the things DT has been saying lately. I laughed at the Pope thing and the 'I love the poorly educated' comment.:oops:
 
Moll Flanders said:
I've known a lot of young people who don't vote, but yet they seem to be quite politically aware. I think older people generally turn out to vote more.
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I understand that. At the same time, to actually go out and vote is likely one of the very few things that you are left to do to truly influence politics. Even though it might not be very "cool".

And yes, it is likely not very much, and quite indirect. But grumbling over what you think is wrong will change even less (other than give you an ulcer).

So, in a nutshell, it dismays me if millions of American "millenials" are fans of progressive politicians and are happily embracing and cheering the chance that there might be an incredible shift changing the country, but don't care about it so much that they would actually go out to vote once every four (or two, if you also consider congressional elections) years and make sure that that change really happens ....

Reminds me a bit about the millions who know that abusing animals is wrong and feel strongly about it, but not strongly enough to do what most of us here (who are not in any way exceptionally special) have done and simply try out the vegan or vegetarian lifestyle themselves.
 
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Am I the only one here who thinks that a President Trump would be significantly more disastrous than a President Cruz?

Because, yeah. As terrifying as Cruz is he's still at least a politician. Trump is an abomination.

an abomination with a nomination. I can rhyme!~
 
FortyTwo said:
Am I the only one here who thinks that a President Trump would be significantly more disastrous than a President Cruz?
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Jimmy Carter does not agree with your analysis...
Jimmy Carter: I'd pick Trump over Cruz

But yeah, the thought of President Trump's finger on the trigger of the US nuclear arsenal does not make me sleep better at night....
 
ETA - I don't know if anyone here has been reading the blog of Scott Adams (creator of Dilbert) as he has been predicting about Trump doing well for ages now.

The Trump Master Persuader Index and Reading List | Scott Adams Blog

Andy_T said:
I understand that. At the same time, to actually go out and vote is likely one of the very few things that you are left to do to truly influence politics. Even though it might not be very "cool".

And yes, it is likely not very much, and quite indirect. But grumbling over what you think is wrong will change even less (other than give you an ulcer).

So, in a nutshell, it dismays me if millions of American "millenials" are fans of progressive politicians and are happily embracing and cheering the chance that there might be an incredible shift changing the country, but don't care about it so much that they would actually go out to vote once every four (or two, if you also consider congressional elections) years and make sure that that change really happens ....

Reminds me a bit about the millions who know that abusing animals is wrong and feel strongly about it, but not strongly enough to do what most of us here (who are not in any way exceptionally special) have done and simply try out the vegan or vegetarian lifestyle themselves.
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It's not me that you need to convince!
 
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Andy_T said:
So, in a nutshell, it dismays me if millions of American "millenials" are fans of progressive politicians and are happily embracing and cheering the chance that there might be an incredible shift changing the country, but don't care about it so much that they would actually go out to vote once every four (or two, if you also consider congressional elections) years and make sure that that change really happens ....
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I sometimes come across the argument that "there are more effective ways of affecting change than voting". Maybe that is true, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't also vote. And, I imagine, a lot of the people who resolve to affect change outside of the ballot-box will fail at it. Meanwhile, older people turn up in bigger numbers, so ultimately they have a bigger influence on who is elected.
 
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