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Jimmy Carter does not agree with your analysis...
Jimmy Carter: I'd pick Trump over Cruz

But yeah, the thought of President Trump's finger on the trigger of the US nuclear arsenal does not make me sleep better at night....

“The reason is, Trump has proven already he’s completely malleable,” Carter explained. “I don’t think he has any fixed [positions] he’d go the White House and fight for. On the other hand, Ted Cruz is not malleable. He has far-right wing policies he’d pursue if he became president.”

I'm not sure if I agree with that. Trump, especially in his current campaign, isn't a flip-flopper like our old friend Mittens. He's pretty clear about what he wants, even if he sucks *** at expressing it in debates. I think he could do a lot more damage than Cruz or a similar politician in that position.
 
I'm not sure if I agree with that. Trump, especially in his current campaign, isn't a flip-flopper like our old friend Mittens. He's pretty clear about what he wants, even if he sucks *** at expressing it in debates. I think he could do a lot more damage than Cruz or a similar politician in that position.

Simply put, when talking about Ted Cruz, we are talking about a man that genuinely hates you and everything you stand for and promises to do everything he can to make sure you have a few really bad days over the next 4 - 8 years. This is a guy who has stated that he's a Christian first and an American second and will bring the bible back to the mix of law making. I don't know about you but that scares the crap out of me. #AnyoneButCruz2016
 
Simply put, when talking about Ted Cruz, we are talking about a man that genuinely hates you and everything you stand for and promises to do everything he can to make sure you have a few really bad days over the next 4 - 8 years. This is a guy who has stated that he's a Christian first and an American second and will bring the bible back to the mix of law making. I don't know about you but that scares the crap out of me. #AnyoneButCruz2016

I mean, in the end, any of the Republican candidates would happily sign my death warrant if they could get away with it just because I am who I am and I exist, so... it's kind of apples and oranges to me, you know? All of them want very similar things, all of them would be terrifying in office.

Let me make myself clear - I could not, in a million years, advocate for Cruz as president. I just think that electing Cruz is something I could see the country doing, unfortunately. Electing Donald Drumpf would be stooping to self-parody in a way that I don't think the human race could recover from.
 
I mean, in the end, any of the Republican candidates would happily sign my death warrant if they could get away with it just because I am who I am and I exist, so... it's kind of apples and oranges to me, you know?

Hmm, I think Trump would not really care much about it, unless he thought it might bring him publicity. Cruz, on the other hand...

Electing Donald Drumpf would be stooping to self-parody in a way that I don't think the human race could recover from.

I might guess that they said that about Reagan too, at some time (before he was elected).

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But, I would say that the Human Race is quite resilient and would even recover from that....
 
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I mean, in the end, any of the Republican candidates would happily sign my death warrant if they could get away with it just because I am who I am and I exist, so... it's kind of apples and oranges to me, you know? All of them want very similar things, all of them would be terrifying in office.

Let me make myself clear - I could not, in a million years, advocate for Cruz as president. I just think that electing Cruz is something I could see the country doing, unfortunately. Electing Donald Drumpf would be stooping to self-parody in a way that I don't think the human race could recover from.

I agree with you up to a point. Maybe death warrant is a bit of an exaggeration :) I just think Cruz is cream of the crop, followed by Rubio as far as being oppressors of women's vaginas, LGBTQ rights, and similar issues goes that OFFEND their Christian sensibilities.
 
It's not really to do with christianity....what ever prevailing religion that exists is going to have its conservatives...who try to repress everyone's freedom.
 
It's not really to do with christianity....what ever prevailing religion that exists is going to have its conservatives...who try to repress everyone's freedom.

That's true Blob... Religion, and yes it could be any mainstream religion that is dominate in any given society is a means of justification and something to rally behind for conservatives that have the intent to oppress (to be fair, not all want that).

It would just be nice to be able to up to a reasonable point to let grown *** men and women decide for themselves what morality is to them rather than a bunch of douche bag politician moral crusaders calling the shots.
 
There's a real Internet petition begging the Queen to "take back" America to save the country from Donald Trump. So far four people have signed it.

Has that not happened yet?

NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

To the citizens of the United States of America,

In the light of your failure to elect a sensible person as President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchial duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable David Cameron, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded.

A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise". You will learn that the suffix 'burgh is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed". There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize".

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to Cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "5hit". You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager". The substances formerly known as "American Beer" will henceforth be refered to as "Near-Frozen Knat's Urine", with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Knat's Urine". This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13. From November 1st the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2017) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $10/US gallon - get used to it).

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your cooperation.

slightly adapted from ... Notice of Revocation of Independence - 15-Point Version
 
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That's amusing. And out of date.

Indeed :)
I cought the "not electing a president", the petrol price and the grace period to call petrol "gasoline", but I did not catch Tony Blair until you mentioned it.
Oh well. Seems David Cameron has not been making much of an impression on me.
 
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That's what makes the rise of a demagogue possible, and gives him power

That is true, unfortunately.

Whenever there is discussion now in German-speaking countries about "how was it possible that Hitler rose to power", nobody can understand how seemingly "decent" people could accept and even participate in the prosecution and genocide of Jews and other minorities.

Most people today are sensitive against the (few, but getting more unfortunately) people who would openly display swastikas or claim that the holocaust was an invention or that it was bad that Germany was liberated from National Socialism.

However, there are now very many who unthinkingly condone and even support racist and xenophobe movements like the German Pegida, the French FN, Hungarian Fidesz or similar right wing movements all accross Europe, without realizing that all those are very similar to what made the rise of National Socialism in Germany possible and socially acceptable:eek:.
 
Hmm, I think Trump would not really care much about it, unless he thought it might bring him publicity. Cruz, on the other hand...

I can't imagine re-oppression of LGBTQ people is too far down on a fascist's to-do-when-elected list, but you're probably right about Cruz.

I might guess that they said that about Reagan too, at some time (before he was elected).

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But, I would say that the Human Race is quite resilient and would even recover from that....

See, the assumption here is that we've recovered from Reagan.