I think we can be more objective because we don't live there, so obviously it doesn't directly affect us. I was talking to my brother about the election before the result and we were laughing at some of the online hysteria we have seen. It's like mass/collective hysteria and it's a lot worse since DT won. Trump baits the left and the media and they keep reacting to him. I completely understand why some people are angry, I'm sure I would be if I lived there, but it seems like people are playing into his hands. I'm sure he loves all the attention he is getting.
Why the Left Need Guns
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I think we can be more objective because we don't live there, so obviously it doesn't directly affect us. I was talking to my brother about the election before the result and we were laughing at some of the online hysteria we have seen. It's like mass/collective hysteria and it's a lot worse since DT won. Trump baits the left and the media and they keep reacting to him. I completely understand why some people are angry, I'm sure I would be if I lived there, but it seems like people are playing into his hands. I'm sure he loves all the attention he is getting.
Interesting question, especially from a moderator.
Frankly, I don't remember word for word what the post said before it was edited. If you'd like to re-post it (assuming it still exists somewhere in VV archives), I'll be happy to answer whether I "agree 100% with everything he said."
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Actually, if the leaks from the WH are accurate, dt gets terribly upset at the protests and any other form of criticism. His constant tweeting bears that out. (And anyone whose had any experience with narcissistic people can confirm that.)
beancounter
The Fire That Burns Within
Interesting diversion. You know exactly what I'm referring to. I'll take your response as a "yes".
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The Fire That Burns Within
Back on topic. Here's my take on the issue.
Guns aren't going away, so the left might as well get their own.
At this point, it's a parity issue.
Guns aren't going away, so the left might as well get their own.
At this point, it's a parity issue.
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Gee, a shining example of passive aggressiveness. Thumbs up to you!
If your question is: would I tell someone to "fork off", then I'll be happy to answer you. I don't think I ever have - not because I don't think it is warranted in some circumstances, but because I prefer to use other verbal tools, such as sarcasm. (See beginning of post.) However, I don't object if someone else says "fork off", whether to me or someone else.
But really, in the future, if you want to make a point, make it directly. If you have a question, ask it directly. It's a much more efficient way of communicating.
beancounter
The Fire That Burns Within
To be perfectly honest, everything Mr. Twimp has done since taking office makes me more convinced than before that he can/should be prepared to Hitler....
To repeat a much-used assertion ... this is EXACTLY how it started in Germany, with 37 % of people "wanting to make Germany great again" and voting for him in the 1932 general election.
The rest, as you say, is history... and I hope that we can learn from that history in order not to repeat it.
(And no, handing out guns to Jews, as it was suggested - and disproved - earlier, would not have been a uable approach to solve the problem, so we are back to the original discussion of this thread)
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I made the assumption after you continued to press the question in your characteristically charming indirect manner. (See the foregoing for another example of sarcasm.)
See how much typing we could both have avoided if you would simply have been forthright enough to ask your question directly?
ETA: It amuses me that, after all these years, you don't seem to realize that I will answer a direct question directly. I admit to many faults, but mealymouthedness is generally not among them.
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It's important that we resist this current regime and its fascist supporters by any means necessary. If you don't feel comfortable holding a gun, certainly don't get one. If you don't feel comfortable punching a Nazi, then don't. You should resist in a manner that you are comfortable with. But just as important is being supportive and showing solidarity to all forms of resistance.
Punching Richard Spencer in the head ended that interview he was having with an Aussie journalist who was allowing his hateful rhetoric to go unchallenged and prevented him from attending the Women's March the following day. The violence at UC Berkeley prevented Milo from outing undocumented students, among other things.
Punching Richard Spencer in the head ended that interview he was having with an Aussie journalist who was allowing his hateful rhetoric to go unchallenged and prevented him from attending the Women's March the following day. The violence at UC Berkeley prevented Milo from outing undocumented students, among other things.
I don't know if it's already been said here, but perhaps a persuasive argument in favour of gun control measures, for the majority of those who still oppose it in the US, would be the idea that big numbers of black people were going to get legally armed ?
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The United States has historically criminalized Black gun ownership. From the so-called founding through Jim Crow, it was illegal in some states for Black people to even possess guns. Modern gun control laws disproportionately affect people of color, especially Black people, who have always been over-policed.
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No. In a more perfect world, I would like you to see the irony of coming onto this thread to make fun about other people's feelings (i.e., outrage at the danger other people are being put into) by calling those emotions "hysteria", and then making the whole discussion about YOUR hurt feelings. I guess some feelings just matter more than other feelings.
In a more perfect world, you wouldn't keep coming into the debate forum to complain about how ugly it all is, and to keep threatening to flounce off so that you can garner sympathy. In a more perfect world, you'd decide to either sip your tea and have sweet discussions about things that aren't controversial, or you'd come in here and debate like a grownup instead of inevitably making it about your hurt feelings.
But this isn't a more perfect world, so I have no objection whatsoever to you continuing doing what you do so well, and some of the rest of us continuing to call you out on it.
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Assuming that people (in the US of course!) don't want black people to have guns.
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And what "danger" are forum members here in that I "made fun of"? I know you love piling on those with differing views, so I believe you when you say you want me to stay.
So you're accusing IS of anti-white racism?
I think you have a very shaky idea of the meaning of the word.