OSes Windows 10: Free upgrade for Win 7 & 8 users

Jeremy said:
The virtual desktops are pretty awesome.... I got used to having them in both OS/2 Warp and Linux, it's one thing I really missed when using Windows. Pretty crazy Windows is just getting them when OS/2 and Linux users had them probably 15+ years ago
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It seemed a good idea at the time, but I don't use it these days. Multiple tabs in browsers, terminals and editors along with key combinations to switch between tabs, create new and close tabs, and alt + tab to switch between applications, has made virtual desktops superfluous to me, or at least much reduced the need for it.
 
Indian Summer said:
It seemed a good idea at the time, but I don't use it these days. Multiple tabs in browsers, terminals and editors along with key combinations to switch between tabs, create new and close tabs, and alt + tab to switch between applications, has made virtual desktops superfluous to me, or at least much reduced the need for it.
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They were really late to the party with this, and that's true it's not as useful a feature as it was 10 years ago. I'll admit at this point it does teeter toward nostalgia
 
beancounter said:
Some Windows 10 upgrade horror stories (scroll to the bottom where the comments are)

Jump the line and get Windows 10 right now - CNET
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It's really not surprising. About half of the issues are likely a split between user error and hardware that's old as the hills. People will ask why Microsoft didn't fix these issues before releasing it, something something about it being released before it was ready, yadda yadda. Truth is there's nothing they could have done to make it a smoother roll out. There's no way to predict how it's going to react to a mix of hardware, and in the case of upgrades the fragileness of the Windows registry, where the registry was likely already in sad shape pre-upgrade

There's some things Microsoft could do better... Error 80240020 that people are getting for example is ridiculous... Why the hell doesn't the cache get scraped when that error occurs, when it's obvious that it was a prematurely terminated download from the server being so congested. I would think it would be simple to make it where that update download cache is cleared automatically as prep work every time Windows checks for updates
 
Well, I hope 4 years isn't considered "old as the hills" :p

Jeremy said:
It's really not surprising. About half of the issues are likely a split between user error and hardware that's old as the hills. People will ask why Microsoft didn't fix these issues before releasing it, something something about it being released before it was ready, yadda yadda. Truth is there's nothing they could have done to make it a smoother roll out. There's no way to predict how it's going to react to a mix of hardware, and in the case of upgrades the fragileness of the Windows registry, where the registry was likely already in sad shape pre-upgrade

There's some things Microsoft could do better... Error 80240020 that people are getting for example is ridiculous... Why the hell doesn't the cache get scraped when that error occurs, when it's obvious that it was a prematurely terminated download from the server being so congested. I would think it would be simple to make it where that update download cache is cleared automatically as prep work every time Windows checks for updates
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My new laptop told me this morning that it has Windows 10 ready to install although I didn't download it or anything, very helpful lol. I will have to read through this thread again before I do it.:p
 
I've been helping a fair few people since Windows 10 went live, that is rewarding and all... But the single most frustrating to talk to about it has by far been my mother. She actually switched back to Windows 7 because the freaking titlebars are white... Of all things to be a deal breaker :fp:
 
Always going to be some system not playing nice with an update from time to time. We do them anyway and deal with finding a way to fix it when it does. It's a shame that Microsoft had to take a step with the automatic updates to protect people from themselves in turn make situations like this one a little more tricky.
 
Jeremy said:
Always going to be some system not playing nice with an update from time to time. We do them anyway and deal with finding a way to fix it when it does. It's a shame that Microsoft had to take a step with the automatic updates to protect people from themselves in turn make situations like this one a little more tricky.
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I think you're being to gentle with MS. If this error occurs, and it's your only computer which you need to use for time sensitive work, you could be sh*t out of luck.

How is the auto-update protecting people from themselves? If you know an update is bad, and you don't want it, you should be able to block it.

I think such a scenario would fall under "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
 
beancounter said:
I think you're being to gentle with MS. If this error occurs, and it's your only computer which you need to use for time sensitive work, you could be sh*t out of luck.

How is the auto-update protecting people from themselves? If you know an update is bad, and you don't want it, you should be able to block it.

I think such a scenario would fall under "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
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I can be pretty nasty toward Microsoft, I think a few people around here can vouch for me on that one lol... In this scenario forced updates prove to be a bad thing sure... But there is a bigger picture. There are people who refuse to do updates at all because "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and that potentially isn't just bad for the individual, this can have consequences that extend far beyond that individual. There have been more than a few farms of insecure un-updated Windows machines in zombie clusters carrying out DDoS attacks over the years. I view staying up to date as a responsibility that should not be neglected. I'm not even singling out Windows with this statement, I would extend the sentiment to Linux and other Unix based systems as well. *NIX users being negligent ticks me off way more than any scenario you could dream up for a Windows user though I have to admit.

So yeah, on one hand I think it's good that Microsoft have made Windows 10 Home a bit more fool-proof with updates... On the other hand I can absolutely see where it can/has also caused problems, and will continue to.
 
Well I mean if it ain't broke don't fix it as in waiting to upgrade until Windows releases a stable version. :p



Jeremy said:
I can be pretty nasty toward Microsoft, I think a few people around here can vouch for me on that one lol... In this scenario forced updates prove to be a bad thing sure... But there is a bigger picture. There are people who refuse to do updates at all because "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and that potentially isn't just bad for the individual, this can have consequences that extend far beyond that individual. There have been more than a few farms of insecure un-updated Windows machines in zombie clusters carrying out DDoS attacks over the years. I view staying up to date as a responsibility that should not be neglected. I'm not even singling out Windows with this statement, I would extend the sentiment to Linux and other Unix based systems as well. *NIX users being negligent ticks me off way more than any scenario you could dream up for a Windows user though I have to admit.

So yeah, on one hand I think it's good that Microsoft have made Windows 10 Home a bit more fool-proof with updates... On the other hand I can absolutely see where it can/has also caused problems, and will continue to.
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beancounter said:
Well I mean if it ain't broke don't fix it as in waiting to upgrade until Windows releases a stable version. :p
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Buy a Mac, or switch to Linux then :) Microsoft has never released a stable version of Windows in comparison to some of it's competition.
 

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