News 2016 U.S. Presidential election - the highs and lows

Today is Sander's last chance to walk away with any of his dignity left. If he really believes any of the superdelegates, let alone enough to be the nominee, will switch to him after everything he's said about them, he's as delusional as Trump.
 
I'm still waiting for those "bona fide links" showing the exodus of superdelegates from Clinton to Sanders.

Anyone? (Just in case Capstan is still mowing.)
 

People, please keep it civil here.


I understand that a lot of emotion is involved, but going at each others' throats here will not change the outcome of the elections...
 
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After his speech tonight, this seems appropriate. (It's satire...mostly)


SAN FRANCISCO (The Borowitz Report)—Upping the ante in his quest for the White House, Vermont senator Bernie Sanders vowed on Tuesday night to continue battling for the Democratic Presidential nomination even if Hillary Clinton is elected President of the United States.

“If, on November 8th of this year, Hillary Clinton is elected President, we will have only begun to fight,” Sanders told a packed rally in San Francisco.

Sanders acknowledged that continuing to fight for the nomination after Clinton is elected President would represent a “steep challenge,” but added, “When we started this race we were only at three per cent in the polls. Anything is possible.”...
Sanders Vows to Keep Fighting for Nomination Even if Hillary is Elected President - The New Yorker
 
How Hillary Clinton did it the second time around

She did it this time because she was effectively the only candidate running. Sanders and the other guy were allowed to run because they weren't (initially) viewed as a threat. They were used as filler to allow the DNC to claim "you have a choice" with a straight face. But the DNC and Clinton new all along that she was the presumptive nominee from day one.
 
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There was a political show on last night and a woman was saying that back in 2008 Hillary Clinton supporters said that they wouldn't vote for Obama and that they would vote McCain or stay at home. She was saying that might be the same situation with Bernie supporters now. They say that they won't vote for HC, but they will come out and vote against Trump in the end.
 
I heard a show mentioning that, but I don't remember people saying that. I guess that's because I wasn't on FB yet. I voted for Hillary in the primaries, but when Obama won the nomination, I stood behind him and voted for him in the general. I actually liked both of them, but liked Hillary a little bit more.
 
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A video surfaced a while back that was filmed in 2008 of an older white woman having a screaming fit when Obama secured the nomination instead of HRC. It sounded like she was a racist who wanted Clinton to be nominated mainly because Clinton is white. Well, she got her wish this year. I don't know if that woman stayed home or voted for McCain or what, but she got her preferred nominee this time around.
 
There was a political show on last night and a woman was saying that back in 2008 Hillary Clinton supporters said that they wouldn't vote for Obama and that they would vote McCain or stay at home. She was saying that might be the same situation with Bernie supporters now. They say that they won't vote for HC, but they will come out and vote against Trump in the end.

I remember a sizable number of Hillary supporters being very vocal and angry back in 2008. They were making all the same claims that the vocal and angry Sanders supporters are making now (that the process was rigged, that Obama stole the nomination, that they would never vote for Obama, etc.)

Democrats/liberals have acted that way, to one degree or another, during the course of every presidential election. When the candidates are of different races and/or genders, those sore loser flames are fanned by underlying (and largely unadmitted) attitudes about race and gender.

Republicans, to give them their due, tend to be more adult about the whole process of winning and losing.
 
I remember a sizable number of Hillary supporters being very vocal and angry back in 2008. They were making all the same claims that the vocal and angry Sanders supporters are making now (that the process was rigged, that Obama stole the nomination, that they would never vote for Obama, etc.)

Democrats/liberals have acted that way, to one degree or another, during the course of every presidential election. When the candidates are of different races and/or genders, those sore loser flames are fanned by underlying (and largely unadmitted) attitudes about race and gender.

Republicans, to give them their due, tend to be more adult about the whole process of winning and losing.

Really???? On what planet?
 
I'm glad I wasn't on FB back then to see all of that, and was able to stay happy in my little bubble filled with people who supported both Hillary and Barack.
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Going on FB now is like walking into a war zone. :hide:
 
I'm glad I wasn't on FB back then to see all of that, and was able to stay happy in my little bubble filled with people who supported both Hillary and Barack.
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Going on FB now is like walking into a war zone. :hide:

Yeah, I've never understood the absolute hatred some people have for the non-preferred candidate(s) of the same party. Even in the case of Trump, the anti-Trump Republicans have to completely ignore the fact that the GOP has been playing the racial/ethnic divisiveness card since the Nixon era, albeit more subtly.
 
Are you referring to a part of my post or the entire post?

The part I bolded.

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Re Social Media:

Michael Moore expressed sadness that Bernie won't get the Democratic nomination, but said he stands firmly behind Hillary as the nominee and wants help from his fans to defeat Trump. HUNDREDS of people went on Facebook to basically scream at him and castigate him for being a treasonous sellout, among other names they gave him. And these are people who see his movies and usually defend him from his "regular" critics. This election cycle has brought out a lot of meanness and ugliness that I don't remember seeing in past elections. I'm surprised I don't have an ulcer.
 
Obama officially endorses Hillary Clinton - BBC News

I remember a sizable number of Hillary supporters being very vocal and angry back in 2008. They were making all the same claims that the vocal and angry Sanders supporters are making now (that the process was rigged, that Obama stole the nomination, that they would never vote for Obama, etc.)

Did the HC supporters you knew back then vote in the end for Obama? If I lived in the US I would just vote for the party I supported, rather than the individual personality.
 
My dad was a Republican and voted twice for Bush which he said regretted during Bush's second term. Then he surprisingly voted for Obama, both times, and had planned to vote for Clinton. Bush was horrible enough that he made my dad change parties. :P
 
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