News 2016 U.S. Presidential election - the highs and lows

And once again, another illustration of "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree": Trump Jr. Suggested Women Who Can't Take Harassment “Don’t Belong In The Workforce"

“If you have a guys’ place you have a guys’ place,” Trump Jr., the candidate’s eldest son and executive vice president at the Trump Organization, said, describing himself as a “guy’s guy.”

A host interjected that women “complain, ‘it’s harassment’ — that’s why we hate having them around. They stop us from doing what we want to do.”

“I’m of that mindset — and I’ll get into trouble, I’m sure I’ll get myself in trouble one of these days,” Trump began. “If you can’t handle some of the basic stuff that’s become a problem in the workforce today, then you don’t belong in the workforce. Like, you should go maybe teach kindergarten. I think it’s a respectable position.

“You can’t be negotiating billion-dollar deals if you can’t handle, like, you know,” Trump said, without elaborating. “But listen — there’s a place where you have to draw the line — but today the stuff you get in trouble for…”
Click to expand...
 
Literally on Faux News last night they had up a map of the U. S. showing that Trump would win "if only men voted"

They spent a certain amount of time on this before I finally turned the channel. I guess it's their fantasy? I just couldn't figure any other reason for a major news station to spend time on this kind of nonsense. It was a WTF moment.
 
Andy_T said:
Wow! That is really brave, attending a rally of Trump's deplorables with such a message.
They will likely act upon it and say "But hey, she asked for it!!"
Click to expand...
It sounds like she got through it unscathed, and no one really saw it as a "dare". Presumably not all Trump supporters are completely out of their minds, which is good news for the "healing" process the US needs to go through after this very polarising ordeal.
 
Spang said:
Donald Trump could also win if only white people voted.
Click to expand...

To be honest, both those statistics frighten me a lot.

I do know a number of Americans personally (and of course, many of those are white and/or male), so should I be more suspicious of those now? so far, I have considered them to be "ok and normal people".

Yes, there was one colleague who told me that he " just might go to the election and vote for Trump" because he did not like/trust Hilary, but I had thought he would be an extreme outlier ... so far ...
 
Moll Flanders said:
I've never even heard of this man. :confused::D
How Evan McMullin Could Win Utah And The Presidency | FiveThirtyEight
Click to expand...

Most people haven't. He may throw Utah to Hillary, but the rest of the article is such wild speculation that it qualifies for the Hugo award for speculative fiction.

He's doing so well in Utah because the Mormons, who are very politically conservative, have been thoroughly disgusted by Trump from the beginning on moral/ethical grounds. (And more power to them; they have been the one conservative group who haven't overlooked all of the horrible things Trump says until he began to sink in the polls.)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Amy SF
Andy_T said:
To be honest, both those statistics frighten me a lot.

I do know a number of Americans personally (and of course, many of those are white and/or male), so should I be more suspicious of those now? so far, I have considered them to be "ok and normal people".

Yes, there was one colleague who told me that he " just might go to the election and vote for Trump" because he did not like/trust Hilary, but I had thought he would be an extreme outlier ... so far ...
Click to expand...

You have to remember that white American males aren't a monolithic group despite what the pundits say, just as white blue collar workers aren't a monolithic group. I grew up in a farming family, still don't like cities, and yet my parents were Democrats, and my sister and I despise everything for which Trump stands with the white hot intensity of a thousand blazing suns.
 
Actually, I haven't seen any highs in this election campaign so far... except maybe for some dark humor. There were maybe 2 or 3 Republican candidates whom I thought had some promise, although Trump was never one of them. I keep wondering if I'm in an episode of The Twilight Zone or having an exceedingly bizarre, surrealistic, impossibly-long dream/nightmare.

Moll Flanders said:
I doubt there is ever going to be anyone perfect as president as it is not realistic, the last time I was very enthusiastic about a leader here in the UK was Tony Blair, but I was young and I have grown up since then.:p

HC and her advisers/policy makers will have paid attention to what Bernie Sanders was saying and what themes resonated with voters and act accordingly. Well, they have been influenced by some of his ideas already anyway so that is quite a victory in itself IMO.
Click to expand...
Yep. Although it's theoretically possible for third party candidates to win, third parties more often make an impact by having their goals adopted by one of the two major parties.
 
I honestly can't help thinking that Trump really never intended to be elected, and he's saying this stuff to guarantee he'll lose. (I think he really means most if not all of what he says, but if he seriously wanted to sit in the Oval Office, it's a little hard to imagine he would have said most of it out loud).
 
Top Bottom