She's an adult and is responsible for her own behavior and safety, not only that, hopefully by the time a spouse reaches adulthood he/she is more than capable of carrying on a discussion with another human being to hash such things out. A young child has neither responsibility nor the capability to look after themselves in all situations nor have they necessarily developed enough verbal communications skills for comprehending a discussion. They are not little adults.
Do you believe in spanking as a form of discipline?
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She's an adult and is responsible for her own behavior and safety, not only that, hopefully by the time a spouse reaches adulthood he/she is more than capable of carrying on a discussion with another human being to hash such things out. A young child has neither responsibility nor the capability to look after themselves in all situations nor have they necessarily developed enough verbal communications skills for comprehending a discussion. They are not little adults.
I had a co-worker who everyone thought was a great, progressive, parent. She bought her five year old a $300 comforter set, and a week later, the little girl got into a bottle of her mother's nail polish and got it all over the comforter. The mother didn't talk to the daughter for a solid week.
Apart from the stupidity of buying a five year old such an expensive comforter set (and this was twenty years ago, when $300 was a lot more than it is now), I think that giving a five year old the silent treatment is a lot more cruel than giving her a swat on the behind.
As I said early in this thread, spankings didn't bother me. They did my sister, but then my sister witnessed a lot of violence before I was born. And my mother's *words as weapons* tactics were harder on my sister than they were on me also.
Really, it depends so much on the individual child, how they will react, what kind of impact it will have. When my nephew was little, I gave him a swat on the behind a few times when he was having temper tantrums. In stopped doing that because it had zero effect on him. Then one time when he was being a really miserable little beast, I told him that I wouldn't hear or see him until he started behaving. He continued acting up, I ignored him completely, and then suddenly he was panic stricken - he started crying and tugging on my arm, saying "Mause! Mause! I'm here! I'm here! Can't you see me?!" I reassured him right away. But that's the occasion that bothers me to this day, not any of the swats on the behind. I didn't mean to scare him like that.
Apart from the stupidity of buying a five year old such an expensive comforter set (and this was twenty years ago, when $300 was a lot more than it is now), I think that giving a five year old the silent treatment is a lot more cruel than giving her a swat on the behind.
As I said early in this thread, spankings didn't bother me. They did my sister, but then my sister witnessed a lot of violence before I was born. And my mother's *words as weapons* tactics were harder on my sister than they were on me also.
Really, it depends so much on the individual child, how they will react, what kind of impact it will have. When my nephew was little, I gave him a swat on the behind a few times when he was having temper tantrums. In stopped doing that because it had zero effect on him. Then one time when he was being a really miserable little beast, I told him that I wouldn't hear or see him until he started behaving. He continued acting up, I ignored him completely, and then suddenly he was panic stricken - he started crying and tugging on my arm, saying "Mause! Mause! I'm here! I'm here! Can't you see me?!" I reassured him right away. But that's the occasion that bothers me to this day, not any of the swats on the behind. I didn't mean to scare him like that.
I do think slapping your kids is a bad way of parenting and it would be classed as physically attacking them if they went to the police/social worker to complain about it. If I came onto a veggie/vegan forum and said I trained my dogs into obedience with slaps then I'm sure people on here would be outraged.
Yeah, I think that people who think that children should be treated like adults are doing children a disservice.
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Equating how one reacts to a human adult with how one reacts to a human child with how one reacts to a dog to how one reacts to a cat is apples/oranges/bananas/strawberries.
That being said, I have one dog, Toby, who is in a world of his own - the closest I can compare it to is certain aspects of autism in a human. He's obsessive-compulsive about certain things, and I have from time to time had to give him a slap on the rump to get his attention in a timely enough fashion to stop him from hurting himself or other animals. When he's in one of his obsessive-compulsive spells, he really doesn't hear me, and if I try to grab him by the collar then, he can, will, and has bitten me. The slap on the rump doesn't hurt him, but it does break the obssessive compulsive cycle long enough so that I can intervene.
Oh, I agree completely. I still remember many of the things people said in my presence that they thought I wouldn't understand. I hated being talked down to when I was a kid, and have always tried to not do that myself.
Francesca_Bee
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I think that every situation is different. There's so many different levels, and every child is different.
If a parent hits a child out of frustration and anger then obviously that IS wrong. That's an abuser.
There's a difference.
I do think its best not to result to physical means but who am I to judge.
If a parent hits a child out of frustration and anger then obviously that IS wrong. That's an abuser.
There's a difference.
I do think its best not to result to physical means but who am I to judge.
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Some of you have obviously never had a little 50 lb terror grab your thumb and violently break it for no apparent reason.
All those hippie dippie kumbaya ideals go right out the window at that point.
Pain can be a great teacher, and can sometimes come from a place of love. Love is not always kind, nor gentle.
All those hippie dippie kumbaya ideals go right out the window at that point.
Pain can be a great teacher, and can sometimes come from a place of love. Love is not always kind, nor gentle.
peacefulveglady
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So your saying that you support of spanking pets now ? My husband spanked one of our cats because she wasnt allowign her sister to eat years ago, it taught her a lesson and now we don't do that.
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Pain can only come from a place of love if there are two consenting adults involved. If kink is what gets you (and/or your partner) off, then whatever, I'm not gonna judge. But it's really F***ed up to apply the same logic to children.
I assumed you meant 50 lb. terror as in child...or did you mean terrier as in dog (referencing pvl's post).
Francesca_Bee
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I don't think this subject is as black and white as everybody is trying to make it out to be.
As for hitting pets for control..... well that's a different topic all together.
As for hitting pets for control..... well that's a different topic all together.
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