NSFW THE TRUMPOCALYPSE

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Amy SF said:
Firing Spicer won't matter, won't make a difference. The antisemitism comes from the top - Donald Trump and Steve Bannon. It's a cancer that they're spreading everywhere. The next press secretary will simply parrot the same antisemitic garbage as the last one, because that's intentional.
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They are despicable on so many levels.
 
Calliegirl said:
I thought when you said to believe everything, it was in response to another post where I mentioned a list of predictions by a couple of people who very accurately predicted the Syria attack. They claimed to have heard the discussion on attacking Syria way back in January, and then posted the exact date of the attack in the beginning of February. That gave them lots of credibility. They went on to post a lot of other things they claim to have heard being planned. A little research on them found the insane things are were saying and that they are trying to scam people that I mentioned in the other post and so I decided to delete the post. I can pm you the link to their post if you want to read it.



I'd heard about the drone attacks. But, the stories all came from people who constantly posted about conspiracy theories, so I didn't take anything they said very seriously.
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The drone attacks were big news for years under President Obama. The media was not quite as fervent to report things about the president then, for some reason..

From April of 2015:
Washington (CNN)
The long trail of civilian death left by President Barack Obama's drone war finally has an innocent American face.
In an extraordinary moment, Obama appeared Thursday in the White House briefing room to apologize for the accidental killings of an American and an Italian hostage in an attack on an al Qaeda compound on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.
The deaths of U.S. hostage Warren Weinstein and Italian Giovanni Lo Porto were an agonizing personal blow to Obama and White House and CIA counterterrorism officials, who were forced to confront the horrifying reality that as a result of their actions, the United States killed two innocent captives.
"It is a cruel and bitter truth that in the fog of war generally, and our fight (against) terrorists specifically, mistakes, sometimes deadly mistakes, can occur," Obama said.

But the killings also have political and policy implications. It was a serious jolt for the drone war program, which is a bedrock of his counterterror legacy. They raised questions of whether U.S. covert agencies had done absolutely everything they could to ensure that no civilians were in the path of the drone strikes or whether the CIA was guilty of another intelligence failure.
READ: Will the drone debate come back?
The methodology of Obama's campaign against Islamic extremism -- including strikes to kill unidentified suspected militants -- and the risks inherent in basing military targeting decisions on the imperfect science of intelligence will also face new scrutiny..."
Continues here Obama confronts 'cruel' reality of his drone war - CNNPolitics.com
 
ledboots said:
The drone attacks were big news for years under President Obama. The media was not quite as fervent to report things about the president then, for some reason..
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Do you realize that your two sentences explicitly contradict each other?!

There was plenty of coverage about the drone attacks. In fact, I just googled "drone attacks" and got 13.6 million results.
 
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Calliegirl said:
I'd heard about the drone attacks. But, the stories all came from people who constantly posted about conspiracy theories, so I didn't take anything they said very seriously.
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Unfortunately the drone program is very real, and very deadly.

Dated 2014.

It's not a conspiracy thing - it's pretty widely covered on news and political programs. It's completely understandable you'd take it with a grain of salt, though - most of the headlines we deal with nowadays are so surreal and bizarre that they warrant further inspection.

We can expect more flying robot attacks under the Cheeto, and probably worse.

Amy SF said:
Firing Spicer won't matter, won't make a difference. The antisemitism comes from the top - Donald Trump and Steve Bannon. It's a cancer that they're spreading everywhere. The next press secretary will simply parrot the same antisemitic garbage as the last one, because that's intentional.
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I still want Spicer to be fired though. Not because it'll necessarily do much, but because I want bad things to happen to Sean Spicer. :p
 
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FortyTwo said:
Unfortunately the drone program is very real, and very deadly.

Dated 2014.

It's not a conspiracy thing - it's pretty widely covered on news and political programs. It's completely understandable you'd take it with a grain of salt, though - most of the headlines we deal with nowadays are so surreal and bizarre that they warrant further inspection.

We can expect more flying robot attacks under the Cheeto, and probably worse.



I still want Spicer to be fired though. Not because it'll necessarily do much, but because I want bad things to happen to Sean Spicer. :p
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Yeah, when the same people post about chem-trails, 9-11 was an inside job, and the government is using mind control to make innocent people commit mass shootings, it's hard to believe anything they say.

I admit, I was pretty apathetic when it came to politics. I read up on the candidates and propositions before voting, but I didn't follow it in the news as much as I should have. Although I voted for Obama, I didn't watch his inauguration, or listen to his speeches throughout the years, and as far as I can remember, that goes for every president. I think I may have caught part of one speech. Last year was the first time I watched any debates. I followed a few things here and there (mostly the ACA, and complained about/made fun of Bush and Palin), but I usually turned off the news whenever politics and sports came on.

This past election has at least brought some of us out of our apathy. Better late than never. :oops:
 
Calliegirl said:
Yeah, when the same people post about chem-trails, 9-11 was an inside job, and the government is using mind control to make innocent people commit mass shootings, it's hard to believe anything they say.

I admit, I was pretty apathetic when it came to politics. I read up on the candidates and propositions before voting, but I didn't follow it in the news as much as I should have. Although I voted for Obama, I didn't watch his inauguration, or listen to his speeches throughout the years, and as far as I can remember, that goes for every president. I think I may have caught part of one speech. Last year was the first time I watched any debates. I followed a few things here and there (mostly the ACA, and complained about/made fun of Bush and Palin), but I usually turned off the news whenever politics and sports came on.

This past election has at least brought some of us out of our apathy. Better late than never. :oops:
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I'm definitely with ya there. Well put.
 
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Tax Day in the US this year is actually Tuesday, April 18th because of the 15th being a Saturday and Monday the 17th being a holiday (I think) in Washington, D.C. So there may be more protesting going on both on Monday and Tuesday as people bring their last-minute tax returns to the post office. Just a thought I had.
 
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Mischief said:
Do you realize that your two sentences explicitly contradict each other?!

There was plenty of coverage about the drone attacks. In fact, I just googled "drone attacks" and got 13.6 million results.
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Well apparently not enough coverage for @Calliegirl to think they were fake news. I was attempting to be polite because I was amazed she had never heard of Obama's drone programme.
 
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