What can we do to retain and engage members?
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hungryraccoon
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I like nice...but sadly, a lot of people think nice is boring.
Nice is nice. I like it.
But I like naked bartenders too.
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AeryFairy
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Indian Summer... can we please have more nekkid threads?
All threads are naked, we can't currently afford clothes for them
Nightshade
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I'm new here so my input may be of little consequence but I was attracted to the friendlier atmosphere of this site as opposed to other, more combative sites I've belonged to in past years. I don't mind civilized debate but if I wanted a knock down, drag out fight, I could engage with any of the thousands of ignorant, meat centric rednecks in my part of the world. I earned my scars in the battle for animal rights a long time ago and I was looking more for a sanctuary away from the line of fire rather than a soapbox. I do hope you don't lean in the direction of encouraging omnis to debate here unless it's going to very strictly moderated and the ban stick can drop fast and heavy at the first sign of stupidity. If I'm out of line, considering my newness, then I do apologize, but I think you all have a very nice balance here and I would hate to see it skew to something more contentious. Of course, take into account that my perspective is probably tempered by the fact that I'm old and grumpy.
Calliegirl
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I think it was already decided that omnis wouldn't be allowed here, unless they are transitioning to veg*nism and looking for help/info.
The one thing I come here for is peace and quiet...mostly.
The worst thing I can think of is being told by other Veg*ns that youre simply not doing enough.
How is that going to help? I wanted to give up my progress to vegan because a small online group told me I wasnt doing enough because A-I didnt boycott every company that had links to animal abuse/boycott supermarkets because they sell meat B-Had an omni boyfriend and C-didnt actively protest or get involved in activisim.
The worst thing I can think of is being told by other Veg*ns that youre simply not doing enough.
How is that going to help? I wanted to give up my progress to vegan because a small online group told me I wasnt doing enough because A-I didnt boycott every company that had links to animal abuse/boycott supermarkets because they sell meat B-Had an omni boyfriend and C-didnt actively protest or get involved in activisim.
AeryFairy
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I just love this one. Like somehow we're taking things less seriously/we're less veg*n for dating a non-vegan. I was told this a few times, I ended up firing back that I was more vegan because I was getting an omni to eat vegan meals when he would otherwise have been eating meaty ones. And he eventually went veggie
It's ridiculous what some people come out with.I totally agree. M eats more veggie and vegan food now than he did at his parents or if he were living alone.
The thing these soapbox vegans forget is...there is always someone doing more than yourself.
When I was told that I was bad bad veg*n for still buying from parent companies that either profit from animal research or damage the Earth (etc) I sooo wanted to ask back how they lived...where did they get their gas/electric...did they own plastic items or wooden furnature...etcetc. I mean we can only do so much.
Unless you grow your own food and cotton to make clothes or whetever you cant be the Holy Saint of Vegans!
The thing these soapbox vegans forget is...there is always someone doing more than yourself.
When I was told that I was bad bad veg*n for still buying from parent companies that either profit from animal research or damage the Earth (etc) I sooo wanted to ask back how they lived...where did they get their gas/electric...did they own plastic items or wooden furnature...etcetc. I mean we can only do so much.
Unless you grow your own food and cotton to make clothes or whetever you cant be the Holy Saint of Vegans!
thefadedone
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OMG yes! The holier than though vegans. I have met a small local group that were exactly the same way. If you weren't outside KFC/McDonalds/etc. protesting on a daily basis even in the most extreme weather then you weren't doing enough. If you shopped at a regular grocery store you were contributing to the cruelty. I once mentioned I went to a cafe here that has a good size vegan menu and I got ripped apart by them because the cafe also offers omni options.
There was also a vegan forum I would visit that held all these same beliefs. I wasn't there very long before getting completely fed up with the "you're not good enough if.." ********.
Cerebellion
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It seems to me those people have little more to do with their time and can afford to spend days on end protesting because they dont have bills to worry about(ie live with mummy and daddy or live off their money) so dont have to worry about keeping a job, running a house or sticking to a budget.
I cant think of anyone I know online or in life who can afford to do a monthly shop at places like Cooperative or Marks and Spencer. Its so expensive!
I cant think of anyone I know online or in life who can afford to do a monthly shop at places like Cooperative or Marks and Spencer. Its so expensive!
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Lord Snot
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OMG yes! The holier than though vegans. I have met a small local group that were exactly the same way. If you weren't outside KFC/McDonalds/etc. protesting on a daily basis even in the most extreme weather then you weren't doing enough. If you shopped at a regular grocery store you were contributing to the cruelty. I once mentioned I went to a cafe here that has a good size vegan menu and I got ripped apart by them because the cafe also offers omni options.
There was also a vegan forum I would visit that held all these same beliefs. I wasn't there very long before getting completely fed up with the "you're not good enough if.." ********.
Completely agree. I hope VV remains as informative but non-judgemental as it has been so far.
CrazyCatLady
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Omg I'm so glad I found you guys and didn't end up in one of these other groups. It scares me and makes me wanna cry a little just reading it. I said it already and il say it again, I love how friendly it is here. I spend my non-online time worrying if I'm being judged, I think of this as my safe place where no comment is too out there and no question is too silly xxx
