News 2016 U.S. Presidential election - the highs and lows

ledboots said:
But the Super Delegates will go Clinton all the way, I'm afraid. And they have a lot of power.
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Not necessarily. If Bernie racks up a lot of earned delegates between now and the convention- enough to tie with Clinton- which I believe he will, and the polls continue to show him as the best candidate to defeat the Republicans, which he is, the superdelegates will likely abandon Clinton in his favor. They will go with the one they think can win. It's the nature of politicians to be fickle. It's what happened to Hillary in 2008, and could well happen again.
 
KLS52 said:
This is what they were portraying, this morning, on the news. [emoji45]
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The news media have been slanted against Bernie from the beginning, and will continue to be. It's part of the overall corruption at work in the "establishment." To hell with the news! Bernie raised over $42-million in February, all from small donations, 10-million more than Hillary. He has tremendous momentum going, in spite of what the pundits would have us believe. I've given up watching the news, because they are so obviously biased. Either they are corrupt to the bone- trying to rig the election- or just plain stupid. The news media are all owned by very rich people, who are terrified of Bernie!
 
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Promises to tear up the Iran deal slower and more theatrically than any other candidate
Cruz

Believes in extensive gun control, but would allow firearms for hunting, self-defense, or helping give voters a little push in the right direction on primary election day
Clinton

Has bravely come out in support of the Second Amendment despite how many people fantasize about shooting him in the face every day
Trump
 
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Capstan said:
The news media have been slanted against Bernie from the beginning, and will continue to be. It's part of the overall corruption at work in the "establishment." To hell with the news! Bernie raised over $42-million in February, all from small donations, 10-million more than Hillary. He has tremendous momentum going, in spite of what the pundits would have us believe. I've given up watching the news, because they are so obviously biased. Either they are corrupt to the bone- trying to rig the election- or just plain stupid. The news media are all owned by very rich people, who are terrified of Bernie!
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You should watch TYT's.

 
Dedalus said:
You should watch TYT's.

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"....My final judgement on the media: horseshit...." He's exactly right. They're full of it, up to and above their eyebrows. Thanks for posting that.

He makes a good point, too, about the authoritarian approach to leadership, the, "You will submit, or else," trend toward fascism in American politics.
 
Capstan said:
The news media are all owned by very rich people, who are terrified of Bernie!
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Have you read Manufacturing Consent?
Basically the media's narrative conforms to whatever corporate, and rich people's interests are. That's why I believe we have no democracy in the west.
 
Blobbenstein said:
Have you read Manufacturing Consent?
Basically the media's narrative conforms to whatever corporate, and rich people's interests are. That's why I believe we have no democracy in the west.
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No, I haven't read it. What's frightening is, I've been able to observe it myself, without help. If I can see it, it must be very out of control.
 
The federal Justice Department has just given immunity to Bryan Pagliano- one of Hillary's aides, who set up her e-mail server- presumably so he can provide testimony in their investigation of her, without being prosecuted himself. Prior to this, Pagliano had relied on the Fifth Amendment to avoid self-incrimination. Doesn't look good for her.
 
The BBC had some complaints about focusing too much on Trump, a few weeks ago...One of the things Manufacturing Consent talks about is resources; media outlets only have so much money to spend on research, and I guess that focusing on Trump is may be a lot cheaper, than focusing on the other candidates.....I wonder who provides all the video footage and satellite connections at these events...for example.
 
Mischief said:
Silliness. And I say that as no fan of Bill Clinton.
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What's silly: what he did, or the petition to prosecute him? There is also another petition going, for the DNC to rescind the delegates Hillary won in that state. She won Massachusetts only by a razor-thin margin. Was that because her husband was illegally influencing voters, on election day?
 
Blobbenstein said:
The BBC had some complaints about focusing too much on Trump, a few weeks ago...One of the things Manufacturing Consent talks about is resources; media outlets only have so much money to spend on research, and I guess that focusing on Trump is may be a lot cheaper, than focusing on the other candidates.....I wonder who provides all the video footage and satellite connections at these events...for example.
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That Trump himself is seeing to it that the media is getting plenty of footage about his own campaign?
 
Capstan said:
The federal Justice Department has just given immunity to Bryan Pagliano- one of Hillary's aides, who set up her e-mail server- presumably so he can provide testimony in their investigation of her, without being prosecuted himself. Prior to this, Pagliano had relied on the Fifth Amendment to avoid self-incrimination. Doesn't look good for her.
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The revelation that the Justice Department has granted immunity to a former State Department staff member who worked on Hillary Clinton’s private email server is a likely indication that the investigation is nearing a conclusion, but should not be read as a sign that the leading Democratic presidential candidate is going to face criminal charges, legal experts said.
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What does a former staffer’s immunity deal mean for Hillary Clinton?
 
Capstan said:
That Trump himself is seeing to it that the media is getting plenty of footage about his own campaign?
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well, if he can make it easier for the media, I think the media would go with that. Even the BBC...probably free sandwiches, taxies.....all sorts of things.
 
Mischief said:
What does a former staffer’s immunity deal mean for Hillary Clinton?
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His immunity, at this point in Clinton's campaign, spells trouble and could lead to an announcement in early May from the FBI about whether or not Clinton or her associates committed a crime. As stated in The New York Times, "Then the Justice Department will decide whether to file criminal charges and, if so, against whom."
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Obama's Justice Department Just Gave Bryan Pagliano Immunity and Bernie Sanders the Presidency
 
Capstan said:
What's silly: what he did, or the petition to prosecute him? There is also another petition going, for the DNC to rescind the delegates Hillary won in that state. She won Massachusetts only by a razor-thin margin. Was that because her husband was illegally influencing voters, on election day?
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Read this: State explains why Bill Clinton's polling place visits were legal

Also, Hillary won by 17,000 votes. That's not "razor thin", and I would doubt that the entire number of voters, all day, at those two polling places would add up to that.

The petition to prosecute is silly, and smacks of desperation.
 
Mischief said:
Read this: State explains why Bill Clinton's polling place visits were legal

Also, Hillary won by 17,000 votes. That's not "razor thin", and I would doubt that the entire number of voters, all day, at those two polling places would add up to that.

The petition to prosecute is silly, and smacks of desperation.
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I think it smacks of how little the Clinton dynasty cares about justice. They really don't give a damn.

Mischief said:
Well, we don't have long to wait to see whether you are right, do we?
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We shall see.
 
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