News 2016 U.S. Presidential election - the highs and lows

Well remember what she said in regards to Lincoln....

I found the movie "Lincoln" to be quite an eye-opener (assuming it correctly depicts history).

Not that I would consider Abraham Lincoln as “dishonest”, but it seems even he had to keep his true intentions to himself at some points (and implicitly rely on the actions of others that did not necessarily come up to his principles), as public opinion on the equality of people of color was not necessarily what it is today.


I found that actually quite interesting as far as the fight for animal rights is concerned, which is often likened to the fight for human equality.
 
This election cycle has brought out the worst in so many people. I'm physically, mentally and emotionally exhausted, and it's STILL not Election Day. I don't want to read anything more about any candidate or watch any more videos or even listen to jokes on television about any part of the election. I just want it to be OVER. :cry:
 
This election cycle has brought out the worst in so many people. I'm physically, mentally and emotionally exhausted, and it's STILL not Election Day. I don't want to read anything more about any candidate or watch any more videos or even listen to jokes on television about any part of the election. I just want it to be OVER. :cry:

I think a lot of us are with you on that.
 
This election cycle has brought out the worst in so many people. I'm physically, mentally and emotionally exhausted, and it's STILL not Election Day. I don't want to read anything more about any candidate or watch any more videos or even listen to jokes on television about any part of the election. I just want it to be OVER. :cry:

Agreed. It's about 2 years too long.

We could learn a lot from the U.K. election
 
Samantha Bee is the new John Stewart.
According to my research, Samantha Bee is the only woman to host a news satire show in the United States. I wouldn't say that she's the new Jon Stewart, but the first Samantha Bee.
 
I found this very interesting. I didn't want to start a new thread but if doesn't belong here VV can move it.

http://leftcall.com/379/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-liberal/

"Liberals believe we will not fully realize true authentic freedom and liberty until the day rights are no longer subject to negotiation, and when people no longer need to fight for equal rights under the law. And modern social liberals believe this is only attainable when we level the economic playing field. This doesn’t mean everyone makes the same salary, it means everyone has a greater chance at a job that pays a living wage in a country with much less income and wealth inequality. When wealth concentrates in the hands of too few, the rights of the many are effortlessly tempered by a few.

Liberals believe we are all in this together. There are over 300 million Americans, and over 7 billion people on the planet. A “go it alone” attitude is simply untenable. We should be united in the idea of improving life on this planet for all human beings. We should not assume the worst about others without proof warranting that contempt. And more importantly, we should not construct legislation that punishes people for actions they may not have committed. For example, we should not cut food stamps because we believe some people abuse the system. Condemning people who find themselves at a vulnerable crossroads in their life, is no way to behave in a civil society. Liberals believe most people are honest and descent human beings who are simply trying to provide for themselves and their family.

It turns out even liberalism is not immune from its own effects, as the modern social liberal, one who supports social justice, economic equality and the idea of a social contract, is an evolution of the Enlightenment period liberal. And modern conservatives, at least those not on the extreme fringes of the right-wing, exist within the construct of liberalism because they too, usually, support the social contract. Most conservatives defend the liberal achievements of the past, whether it’s Social Security, Medicare or civil rights. And most people, including conservatives, are open to change, even if it’s only on a limited basis. So what I’m saying is that conservatism exists as a check on liberalism. That is, conservatism exists to keep the march of progress in check, to make sure we do not change the structure of society faster than its individual members can adapt. And to many liberals, this is antithetical to the way we operate. We believe progress is inevitable so why not accept it so we can move on to the next issue. But there might be something to be said for having measured change over longer increments of time, and that’s where conservatism serves as this check. But make no mistake, in each new generation, conservatives will be supporting the liberal ideas and liberal government programs that conservatives of the past were railing against."



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"Amoral masculinity": a theory for understanding Trump from feminist contrarian Christina Hoff Sommers - Vox

Hmm, I disagree with a lot of what she is saying about feminism:D but I thought it was interesting. I didn't realise so many people in the US (30 or 40 percent of the country?) see Obama as effete and weak.

Democrats generally are seen as effete and weak, but Obama especially, because of his cool temperament.

It's given rise to, among other things, the conspiracy theory that Michelle is actually a cross-dressing man and that he and Barack are in a homosexual relationship, which is believed by a frightening number of people.
 
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